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Hoggy Warty Hogwarts,
Teach us something please,
Whether we be old and bald,
Or young with scabby knees,
Our heads could do with filling,
With some interesting stuff,
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And full of air,
Dead flies and bits of fluff.
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We'll do the rest,
And learn until our brains all rot!



1: The heavens declare the glory of God; and the firmament sheweth his handywork.
2: Day unto day uttereth speech, and night unto night sheweth knowledge.
3: There is no speech nor language, where their voice is not heard.
4: Their line is gone out through all the earth, and their words to the end of the world. In them hath he set a tabernacle for the sun,
5: Which is as a bridegroom coming out of his chamber, and rejoiceth as a strong man to run a race.
6: His going forth is from the end of the heaven, and his circuit unto the ends of it: and there is nothing hid from the heat thereof.
7: The law of the LORD is perfect, converting the soul: the testimony of the LORD is sure, making wise the simple.
8: The statutes of the LORD are right, rejoicing the heart: the commandment of the LORD is pure, enlightening the eyes.
9: The fear of the LORD is clean, enduring for ever: the judgments of the LORD are true and righteous altogether.
10: More to be desired are they than gold, yea, than much fine gold: sweeter also than honey and the honeycomb.
11: Moreover by them is thy servant warned: and in keeping of them there is great reward.
12: Who can understand his errors? cleanse thou me from secret faults.
13: Keep back thy servant also from presumptuous sins; let them not have dominion over me: then shall I be upright, and I shall be innocent from the great transgression.
14: Let the words of my mouth, and the meditation of my heart, be acceptable in thy sight, O LORD, my strength, and my redeemer.

Tuesday, June 27, 2006

Snape Revisited

Just something that coalesced in my brain pan while listening to HBP, on whether or not Snape is a poison or a wine in the DADA potions riddle from Book 1.

The litmus test (or at least one of them) has been, I think, agreed upon, as: "What did they teach as far as DADA? Was it good or bad, helpful or hurtful?" In looking at Snape's performance as DADA professor on this particular level I still have to come down on the "poison" side, because of 2 things.

1. We know from HBP that Harry expects to get bad marks on his essay on defending against Dementors because he disagrees with Snape on the best approach. We also know Harry is very good at defending against dementors because he drove off a hundred at once, and that casts Snape's insistence on his own approach in the "bad" category - it detracts from truly learning how to defend against dementors (and if Red Hen is right, this may be THE central question of the series in regards to DADA).

2. In HBP we also hear Snape say "and they [the essays] had better be better than that tripe I had to endure on resisting the Imperius!" Again, We know (from the central book in the series, according to the Chiastic structure theory, book 4) that Harry can resist the Imperius curse of Voldy himself, the most malicious and bent-on-control wizard of all time. Most of that class learned what they do know of resisting the Imperius from Harry's experience with Barty Jr/Moody in class and from Harry in the DA. Once again, Snape seems to be detracting from the students learning valuable lessons on DADA.

Of course, that particular litmus test would cause us to rethink Barty Jr, I guess. We refer to him as a poison because he took Harry to Voldy, not because of his class lecture content. That's why I say I think it is only one of the litmus tests.

Just some thoughts....
posted by Merlin at 7:13 PM


Comments on "Snape Revisited"

 

Blogger jkr2 said ... (June 28, 2006 8:33 AM) : 

yes, do you judge them on intent or results?????

jo

ps i check here every day and these few posts only came up today. wierd!

 

Anonymous Anonymous said ... (July 23, 2006 11:26 PM) : 

Just a few thoughts:

Lupin told Harry in PA that a Patronus Charm is highly advanced magic and well above OWL level. Harry managed to produce one in his third year, but when he started teaching the Patronus Charm to the DA members in the fifth year, only a few were able to produce one, and those were produced in relaxed laboratory conditions, not when a real Dementor was bearing down on them. Harry tried to explain to them that they needed either a real Dementor or a Boggart that would turn into one to really learn that charm, but even under stress, they might be too terrified to pull one off.

So when Snape was trying to teach the students in the sixth year about alternate means of protecting themselves against Dementors, we have to consider that he was teaching them something all of them would be able to use, not just the most magically gifted or steely under pressure. In fact, you could make a case that Harry was not being considerate of students with lesser DADA skills.

 

Blogger Merlin said ... (July 24, 2006 12:30 AM) : 

AHHH ... now that is a evry interesting argument indeed ... I'll have to ponder that one for a bit.
It would help if we knew what exactly Snape recommended, but then that may be something she could not have revealed without tip offs on other things ... in which case, your argument would do more than simply establish legitimate alternatives on viewing Snape, but would point maybe to something positively key in the themes ... I'll be interested to see if she uses it in book 7, reveals in any conversations what Snape's classroom recommendation was for 6th years ... either way I would say you have at least done the former (established a good argument for the possibility that it might just be the case that Snape was wiser on this one)

I'll have to ponder that some more, but you have definitely opened up some more lattitude for Snape with me.

 

Blogger Merlin said ... (July 24, 2006 12:31 AM) : 

Might help if I hurried up and got off my lazy hind-end and read that inerview part on Snape eh?

 

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