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Hogwarts, Hogwarts,
Hoggy Warty Hogwarts,
Teach us something please,
Whether we be old and bald,
Or young with scabby knees,
Our heads could do with filling,
With some interesting stuff,
For now they're bare
And full of air,
Dead flies and bits of fluff.
So teach us stuff worth knowing,
Bring back what we forgot,
Just do your best
We'll do the rest,
And learn until our brains all rot!



1: The heavens declare the glory of God; and the firmament sheweth his handywork.
2: Day unto day uttereth speech, and night unto night sheweth knowledge.
3: There is no speech nor language, where their voice is not heard.
4: Their line is gone out through all the earth, and their words to the end of the world. In them hath he set a tabernacle for the sun,
5: Which is as a bridegroom coming out of his chamber, and rejoiceth as a strong man to run a race.
6: His going forth is from the end of the heaven, and his circuit unto the ends of it: and there is nothing hid from the heat thereof.
7: The law of the LORD is perfect, converting the soul: the testimony of the LORD is sure, making wise the simple.
8: The statutes of the LORD are right, rejoicing the heart: the commandment of the LORD is pure, enlightening the eyes.
9: The fear of the LORD is clean, enduring for ever: the judgments of the LORD are true and righteous altogether.
10: More to be desired are they than gold, yea, than much fine gold: sweeter also than honey and the honeycomb.
11: Moreover by them is thy servant warned: and in keeping of them there is great reward.
12: Who can understand his errors? cleanse thou me from secret faults.
13: Keep back thy servant also from presumptuous sins; let them not have dominion over me: then shall I be upright, and I shall be innocent from the great transgression.
14: Let the words of my mouth, and the meditation of my heart, be acceptable in thy sight, O LORD, my strength, and my redeemer.

Monday, July 17, 2006

Good or Bad Symbolism Debate

I had mentioned in an earlier post one of the "takes" on symbolism among those who oppose the Harry Potter books on a religious fundamentalist basis. This most radical faction would see all symbolism as bad form in literature, imprecise and misleading in the moral realm, incoherent in any theological realm. I dub this the "Symbolism is bad" argument. While I believe there is a bit of this notion out there, the far more common objection would be the "Bad Symbolism" argument which acknowledges that there is a certain use for symbols in literature and that many great works use them well, but the use of symbols J. K. Rowling's makes in her writings fail to fall within certain generally accepted "guidelines" which in turn renders the books harmful especially to children.

I also refer to this as the Michael O'Brien argument since he is probably the person who argues for it the best. In his piece from October 2004, "Harry Versus Frodo" he argues that in Harry Potter the symbols have undergone a "corruption" at the Hands of J. K. Rowling. This plays out mainly in that although magic is always suspect in the "good" symbolic literature of Tolkien and C. S. Lewis, magic is routinely shown as being used toward good ends in Harry Potter. After his selective examples to "prove" this from Lewis's Narnia books and LotR, he comes out with this statement:

"Rowling has not inverted our symbology. No, she has done something more corruptive, which is to appropriate it and mutate it. She is telling us through her symbology that because there are good serpents and bad serpents, therefore there are good witches and bad witches, good sorcerers and bad sorcerers."
Then he goes on to compare the use of magic in Harry Potter with a proposed use of fornication in a hypothetical novel. This seems to be a stretch at best and if you read the article, some of you would have been laughing at this point. But I want to point out that by this point he still hasn't proven that the use of magic by Harry or Dumbledore or Hermione is in any way bad. The biggest clue is he never mentions any actual spells and he is very careful to say that in LotR Gandalf's magic gifts are "are used sparingly, and then only so far as they help the other creatures". The fact is, Gandalf does use them; this seriously weakens his argument. Likewise Galadriel -- who the men of Rohan say is a devious witch and are sternly rebuked -- uses a magic, mirror-like pool which scares the pants off Frodo and Sam. Would this be like a hypothetical novel in which people engaged in fornication sparingly or when there was no other choice? Yes, the ring is bad magic but Galadriel's Phial is good magic and saves Frodo's like when he uses it.

O'Brien continues to resemble the men of Rohan in their fear of Galadriel as he concludes the following from the lack of "theological foundations" in Harry Potter:

"The Harry Potter series is a fantasy-projection of materialist man imagining himself to have god-like powers without any reference to the source of those powers, nor to any set of moral absolutes against which he can measure the rightness or wrongness of his actions. He is, in a sense, 'beyond good and evil.' He is the offspring of Nietzsche's 'super-man' and Camus' 'stranger', the outsider adrift in a cosmos without fixed moral reference points..."
He goes on, believe it or not, but that's probably enough for sake of the point. I didn't "get" this lack of moral absolutes from the books -- please comment below if you did. At least he didn't scold her for her ultra-liberal abundance of adverbs.

The only two real examples he gives of symbols being off in the books is (1) witches should always be evil (which I addressed with Galadriel) and (2) snakes should always be evil. I don't think that the "good snake" -- or neutral snake at least -- at the zoo in "Philospher's Stone" is a very good symbol for Satan, the ancient enemy of God and Mankind prowling the earth. He's cooped up, bored and yearning for the tropics. The entire scene is used as a plot device and I see no reason to set of the alarm and cry "Corrupted symbol! Evacuate the library!" After all, Christ is referred to as the "Lion of the tribe of Judah" whereas "Your enemy the devil prowls around like a roaring lion" shows us the symbol of a lion with an opposite use. There is some subtlety in context and I think O'Brien is looking at the books with an eye pretty well jaundiced to begin with.

As I said, O'Brien argues best for this "Bad Symbolism" view, but I think it's because he refuses to be too specific. Context can be very problematic for the anti-Harry crowd. To pick a more specific example of the "Bad Symbolism" argument other than O'Brien's: before I was "Harry-savvy", I once heard an anti-Harry screed which asserted the following: In "Philosopher's Stone", drinking unicorn blood is seen as a vicious, abominable act which damns the drinker. Since the unicorn is a Christ symbol, this is stating that communion with Christ's blood is a bad thing while to drink the Elixir of Life from the Philosopher's Stone is good in the book. So the message of the book is that the philosophers and sorcerers will get you farther than Christianity.

Again -- hard to see how the person saying this got this from the book, and it seems to me they were working pretty hard at piecing this together. But let's formally analyze it. The Dark Lord was slaughtering the unicorns and then using their blood, which has magical properties in the books, to stay alive. In context what he was doing was evil on the surface and didn't resemble Holy Communion one bit. While it is true that the unicorn is a Christ symbol I don't see why the violent shedding of it's blood must equal communion.

But what really slams a coffin lid on this argument can be found in John Granger's book "Looking for God in Harry Potter" (and please promise me you'll buy it, OK?) In Chapter 9, "Evidence of Things Unseen", Granger writes:

"Historians of science, religion and literature agree on very little in my experience. However, they do agree that the philosopher's stone is a symbol of Christ. (26) There isn't anything else in the world that promises eternal life and golden (that is, incorruptible or spiritual) riches except Christ, so the connection is transparent. (p. 97)"
His endnote 26 references Titus Burckhardt's book on Alchemy which I own; I'll dig it up some time.

Then on the symbolism of the Red Lion: "The 'red lion' is the Elixir of Life coming from the philosopher's stone, a symbol of the blood of Christ received in Communion. (p. 99)" Reading these passages confirms what many realize intuitively already: Rowling isn't inverting or corrupting these symbols at all. A little lesson in alchemy from Professor Granger and a healthy dose of context sheds a lot of light on this misunderstanding.

I'll close with these wise an sensible words from the conclusion of an article by Regina Doman: "The main problem with the books could simply be that they are new. When I was growing up, I was encouraged by serious Christians to avoid The Lord of the Rings because the book was thought to encourage interest in the occult. After all, it had spawned the occultic Dungeons and Dragons games. But now Tolkien's book is hailed as a Christian classic, simply because it has passed the test of time.

If the Potter series ends in the same way as it has gone so far, then it could be true, paradoxically, that the best-selling books of the 21st century will have been Christian fiction in disguise." I can see this happening, after the "dust settles." I wouldn't use the phrase "Christian fiction" myself, just because it conjures up really cheesy kids stories, but I won't object to it -- not everyone wants to be weirdos like Merlin and Pauli, referring to books as "alchemically symbolic mythopoeic literature".

[A couple more links pertinent: John G.'s "Should my kids read Harry Potter?" (audio). Also note Merlin's post on symbolism as participation, quite good.]
posted by Pauli at 11:06 PM


Comments on "Good or Bad Symbolism Debate"

 

Blogger jkr2 said ... (July 18, 2006 8:10 AM) : 

not everyone wants to be weirdos like Merlin and Pauli, referring to books as "alchemically symbolic mythopoeic literature".

i want to be like merlin and pauli.
so i'll refer to the books like that.
then i'll find out what mythopoeic means .....

great post.

jo

 

Blogger Merlin said ... (July 18, 2006 1:17 PM) : 

Just skimmed really quickly. Really good.

Just real quick (and then some more later):
"The Snakes always bad" thing from O'brien - part of the reason that caught my eye is thinking about stuff on Pirates regarding one of Sumara's questions, which I had already been pondering - Barbosa as the "cunning" of the serpent but becoming not necessarily the seprent itself. In Genesis the serpent is definitely bad, and the cunning of the serpent is definitely cunning employed concretely in a bad direction ... but neither are intrisically evil - the nahash (serpent) is still a creature of the field, still a creature of God, and so is his cunning ... both intrinsically good, but tricky ... the higher the leap, the harder the ground.

I think One of the best examples is the relationship between Treebeard and Galadriel, that Merry and Pippin as TB about. Galadriel warns them to steer clear of Fanghorn and his forest and they kind of wonder why, when they have met him and think he's a pretty swell guy. TB's response is really rich - he says he would have warned them likewise of her, even though they are right that both he and she are on the "good" side - and both would be right in warning the hobbits to be careful of the other ... each has a lot of power, and look what power did to Saruman. Cunning is that kind of power/ability, and in the garden the serpent is definitely the evil use of it

I would have to go check the book but I'm pretty sure that in either the book or movie Harry hears the snake in the zoo say, as it slithers away, "Hello Burma" - not, like the Basilisk "let me rip you up, time to kill you" etc - in and of itself the snake in the zoo represents ... a snake - in the "an animal created by God" way. This is not to say that it has no symbolic value, but that's just the point - symbolism is about real participation and not the mere metaphorical interpretation of allegories. PArt of the symbolic value comes from the context (prisoner in a zoo etc), but not all of it.

This is a hard point to discuss, tricky to describe accurately without falling into, and pulling a reader into, something like that dark water that put Bombur the dwarf out like a light for days in The Hobbit (at least it is for me). But the thing that is in my mind on it is the Bible. The Pontifical Biblical Commission put out a document in 1993 called The Interpretation of the Bible in the Church and one of the things discussed is the "Spiritual Senses," one of which is reading the OT allegorically (which means connecting specific OT instances with specific events/characters etc the Gospels, that is in the first historical coming of Christ)... but they (the PBC) go out of their way to warn against viewing what is called "the allegorical sense" as a system of arbitrary corrolations (the a. sense was one of 3 "official" senses in the official method of interpretation from the Middle Ages, a system refered to as the "Quadriga" - the 4 senses [literal, allegorical, moral, anagogical/eschatological] - ie it's a term within a very specific concrete methodology, just to say that when I'm saying "the allegorical sense" it's that very specific thing, as opposed to my usuall stumbling and ramblings around the word)- they (the PBC) specifically state that it is based in intrinsic qualities within each element


I think that in the end O'brien's readings are along the lines of the mentality of arbitrariness that the PBC was saying to try avoid in exmaning the "allegorical sense" - simplistic allegory vs substantial symbolism - he's very shallow. He wants a cut and dried allegory of the kind Tolkien mistrusted (ie strict allegory as a sort of tyrant over the meaning of a work -JRRT does admit to using allegory - Bombadil was a straight-up allegory of pre-fall creation - but he was one element mixed in his proper proportion and balance to the rest of the work - and remember it would have been a fiasco to ask him to be the one to dispose of the ring ... what O'brien wants is allegory as a maniaclly micro-managing tyrant) ... or at least that is what O'brien is trying to convince his readers to want.

Personally, I would hazard a guess that this is the best he is capable of in his own writings ... and so he tries some smoke and mirrors in the form of "I'm not a cut and dried allegorist - I talk about symbolism ... see"

But when you come down to it, he's very arbitrary minded - "snake always bad" is "snake was the devil in the garden and that is just the way it is ... all other uses of snakes are ruled by a 1-1 corrolation defined by that identity" - without any grasp of why it was serpent in the garden, of what cunning is as a thing positively created or endowed by God (just like even the serpent was created by him, and thus intrinsically good ... even the devil was, at one time good - but he did make a choice and become definitively bad) - no sense of the rich range of life either, that you could have a serpent, in a certain context, that may have some good qualities and may have some bad - some good uses of cunning and some bad uses of it, but when you're a prisoner for life you don't really have the potential to take either to any kind of extreme level ... but in the context of the zoo he would really just like to get out of the cage and experience a little freedom.

Ok, that was entirely longer than I planned and think I definitely put myself into that sleep of Bomburs so I'm going to cut it here :)

 

Blogger Pauli said ... (July 18, 2006 1:25 PM) : 

Beautiful comment. I think the snake wanted to go to Brazil. Maybe in book 7 we'll find out if the zoo-snake makes it there.

(current mood = silly) Or maybe he'll come back to the UK "Han Solo style" and help defeat Nagini.

 

Blogger jkr2 said ... (July 20, 2006 6:31 AM) : 

i think that snake was originally going to be nagini, until she found out that the boa constrictor has no poison...
or that may be an urban fan myth....

jo

 

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