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Hogwarts, Hogwarts,
Hoggy Warty Hogwarts,
Teach us something please,
Whether we be old and bald,
Or young with scabby knees,
Our heads could do with filling,
With some interesting stuff,
For now they're bare
And full of air,
Dead flies and bits of fluff.
So teach us stuff worth knowing,
Bring back what we forgot,
Just do your best
We'll do the rest,
And learn until our brains all rot!



1: The heavens declare the glory of God; and the firmament sheweth his handywork.
2: Day unto day uttereth speech, and night unto night sheweth knowledge.
3: There is no speech nor language, where their voice is not heard.
4: Their line is gone out through all the earth, and their words to the end of the world. In them hath he set a tabernacle for the sun,
5: Which is as a bridegroom coming out of his chamber, and rejoiceth as a strong man to run a race.
6: His going forth is from the end of the heaven, and his circuit unto the ends of it: and there is nothing hid from the heat thereof.
7: The law of the LORD is perfect, converting the soul: the testimony of the LORD is sure, making wise the simple.
8: The statutes of the LORD are right, rejoicing the heart: the commandment of the LORD is pure, enlightening the eyes.
9: The fear of the LORD is clean, enduring for ever: the judgments of the LORD are true and righteous altogether.
10: More to be desired are they than gold, yea, than much fine gold: sweeter also than honey and the honeycomb.
11: Moreover by them is thy servant warned: and in keeping of them there is great reward.
12: Who can understand his errors? cleanse thou me from secret faults.
13: Keep back thy servant also from presumptuous sins; let them not have dominion over me: then shall I be upright, and I shall be innocent from the great transgression.
14: Let the words of my mouth, and the meditation of my heart, be acceptable in thy sight, O LORD, my strength, and my redeemer.

Wednesday, May 23, 2007

My Full Response to Mr. Joe Woodard's Piece Criticising Harry Potter

The Following is the full text of my response to Mr. Joe Woodards Piece attacking Rowling's Harry Potter series as a materialistic, neo-pagan rally cry for the "technological imperative." Following my email to the editor/s at MercatorNet, Michale Cook emaied me notifying me that their com-box interface was now operational and inviting me to voice my comments there, thereby generously offering me a chance to voice my response in public forum.

RESPONCE TO MR WOODARD:

I would like to thank Michael Cook, editor (or at least one of them) for MercatorNet, for emailing me with the information that this comments interface is operational for this essay. I wrote an email to the editor upon reading this piece that was somewhat, shall we say, animated. I appreciate very much Michael providing me the opportunity to express my opinions and thoughts in this public forum and initiating the contact for me to do so. I am actually writing this later than I originally told Michael that I would, due to a busy schedule even after the regular coursework of my recently finished semester, which concludes my first year of coursework as a PhD candidate in the Biblical Studies track of a theology program. I will make my arguments against Mr. Woodard's piece under a set of numbered points below (actually, following the numerology of the Bible and the classical world used by JK Rowling in her works, there will be exactly seven such points).

Here I will only further point out that the follwing text is equivalent to a 25 page essay at the standard "college rule" parameters (12 pt, Times New Roman font, double spaced, 1 inch margins). This makes the text length equal to that of most graduate level papers (although not all of the content is argued in the same fashion as such graduate papers). Thus, the reader may wish to copy and paste this essay out into a Word or other word processor program document and print it for easier reading, if they are so inclined and it makes the venture easier on the eyes. If Mr. Woodard wishes to complain about such lengthy writing, he should cease from active dialogue in this field ... this is a standard length of argumentation in the field in which he purports in this present piece of his to be an expert and reliable source of information and sound thinking. (my several "asides" in my response below are my own substitution in this format for the convention of footnotes in academic writing. I have tried to mark them clearly in the format using HTML tags for bold and Italics to help the reader easily demarcate the beginning and ending of the asides).

1. The Question of the Validity of Mr. Woodard's comments as even pertaining to Harry Potter.

My first criticism of Mr. Woodard's piece is whether his piece even actually has that much to do with the Harry Potter series. He spends very little space actually talking about the Harry Potter works. The vast majority of this piece simply uses that topic, after some facile derisive comments on it, as a springboard for "show-boating" his own "erudition" and dire prognostications of the current post-modern situation.

I spent a semester in my undergraduate studying Descartes, Locke, Leibniz, Spinoza, Hume and Kant (although I did not touch too much of Hegel, considered to be the culmination of modernist German Idealism rationalist philosophy). I have recently, as one of my courses of my PhD coursework this past semester, studied Wittgenstein, Husserl, Heidegger, Levinas, Derrida, Foucault, Lacan and several "transcendental Thomists" such as Marechal and Rousselot, as well as current thinkers like Jean Luc Marion, present head of philosophy at the Sorbonne. I therefore feel qualified to state that I find that Mr. Woodard's presentation of the issues reveals, at best, a sophomoric grasp of the philosophical movement from the modern era of philosophy to the "post-modern" and events such as the "linguistic turn" and subjectivist epistemology.
I will discuss below some of the few statements Mr. Woodard makes actually in regards to the Harry Potter works in comparison to several of these thinkers. For here, however, I wish only to note that as one who has actually studied these movements and thinkers, I have to doubt seriously Mr. Woodard's actual grasp of what has gone on and is going on in the fields of philosophy, literature and theology, including any real grasp or understanding of the concrete ways in which these schools of thought bear on and impact the thinking of the culture at large.

(ASIDE:In regards to the issue of death itself, which Mr. Woodard dwells on quite a bit in bombastic tones, I personally would be amused to hear his discussion of Heidegger’s formulation of death as, "the possibility of the impossibility of any existence at all" for the human person [Being and Time, Section 53, German Page 262, English translation by John Mecquarrie and Edward Robinson, English page 307, Oxoford, Basil Blackwell, 1978]. Actually I would be most interested to find out if Mr. Woodard even understands what Heidegger is saying well enough even to begin to mount an adequate critique of it. The first hurdle he is likely to encounter is the very large question in Heideggerian studies of what is meant by the term, existence, the German Dasein. As a Biblical scholar myself I would have to lay the following ground rule if Mr. Woodard were to attempt such a critique of Heidegger's "metaphysics" and epistemology – I put "metaphysics" in quotes because Heidegger is famous for his criticism of "traditional" Western metaphysics. The ground rule would be that argumentation from the New Testament is only acceptable if he can demonstrate enough knowledge of the original language, Koine Greek, to discuss adequately the language of "thanatos" for death, "soma" and "sarx" bodily existence, "nous" for "mind," "dianoia" for "mind" and "gnomei" for "knowledge" - and argumentation from the Old Testament is only acceptable if he can demonstrate enough facility with Biblical Hebrew to discuss adequately the concepts of "mot" as death, "nephesh" as "soul," "life" or "life force," "lev/levav" as "heart," "ruach" as "spirit/mind" and "basar" as "flesh." I would put the actual Hebrew and Greek in this text but I know that HTML and Java combox interfaces do not carry over my Hebrew and Greek fonts, the best I would be able to do is a converted PDF file.)End Aside

2. Unknown Endings: Is Mr. Woodard a clandestine sorcerer himself, or a master burglar?

In my original email to the editor I made a sarcastic quip about the possibility of Mr. Woodard keeping a sheep pin himself and doing a little back yard divination, or having clandestinely undertaken feats of magical burglary that would dazzle even the goblins whose magic guards the wizard bank called Gringott’s in the Harry Potter works. I do not wish to repeat the sarcasm of that comment any further here, as I would consider it uncalled for and disrespectful of the editor's generosity in informing me of this venue in which to speak publicly in my own words. I do, however wish to explain the content of that statement and the source of the allusions. This is my "this factor should go without saying" point of material criticism of Mr. Woodard's piece.

The reference to burglary is a little less obscure than the other reference: Book 7, "Harry Potter and the Deathly Hallows," has been completed with both the author and publishers by now, but nobody except those persons, and the illustrators who have done the artwork for the book, have seen the story itself. Given the popularity of the series, I imagine that those people keep their copies in vaults that make Gringotts look easy to rob, and do not go showing many people the text, if anyone at all, before its official publication.

The reference to sheep is a little more obscure but points to the same problem with Mr. Woodard's piece. The reading of sheep intestines was a common form of divination in the ancient world. Obscure as it may be, the image still pops up latently even in contemporary films, such as the 2003 film The Life of David Gayle, starring Kevin Spacey. I will not go into here my position against the death penalty, which would place me materially "agreeing" with that film, nor my criticism of the fallacious argument the film employs, which would place me as disagreeing with it. I will, note however, that while I do not necessarily recommend The Life of David Gayle as a film (some sections, I feel, cross the line of gratuity in sexual content), I do recognize the presence of the image of reading sheep entrails as divination. I will also try to set at ease the minds of any wishing to check the film out, as far as the sheep entrails image goes: there are no live sheep or any intestines, either actual or rubber-model. It is a mid-sized, stuffed lamb doll in which is enclosed a piece of evidence that (supposedly) casts the whole story in a radically new light. In other words, the "entrails" of the stuffed animal contain radical revelations – as the note attached to the doll in the movie says, "Salvation lies within."

Both of the above elements point to one thing: the end of the Harry Potter series, including whether or not Harry dies, is not, nor will it be, publicly held knowledge until July 21, 2007, when the book is released publicly. Therefore Mr. Woodard's piece, in its assumption from the very outset that Harry will die, is radically weak and fallacious argumentation from the first word onward. In the online circles of discussion on the Potter series there are legitimate debates that clearly acknowledge the possibility of Harry's death as one possible logical ending to the tale on the grounds of the first six books. There are also those in such debates who, while admitting a certain logic to Harry's death, argue for a greater logic and internal consistency to Harry surviving. Until book 7 is in the hands of the public the issue of whether Harry is more likely to die or to survive is only a legitimately debatable point, and not a known fact.

3. Rowling and Dumbledore on Death

Mr. Woodard follows his initial comments with what I can consider to be nothing less than rashly unnecessarily hyperbole of style that borders on - nay, fully commits - rampant arrogance. Based in his unfounded assertion that Harry will die at the end, Mr. Woodard proceeds to paint a skewed picture of Rowling as enamored of technology (symbolized in her Potterverse, as it is sometimes called in online circles, by magic) but neurotically needing to deal with that one small nagging concern that technology has not yet solved the problem of death, back-peddling and needing to tie the question up with a neat tidy little bow just to cover her bases in advocating the wonders of technology. I quote: "last and most clearly with Harry's death, the slowly-dawning realization that human mortality still punctures all of our idiosyncratic "realities" and renders human technology (even genetic engineering and sorcery) mere distraction and vanity."

I will not encumber the reader here with the numerous quotes by JK Rowling in interviews that show that death and the need for healthy personal coping with death as a part of life in the fallen world have been a consistent theme of hers from the outset, that is has not been simply some anomaly she needs to cover the bases on in what is an otherwise unbridled advocacy for technology as savior. The quotes are many. Unlike Mr. Woodard, I will, however, provide the reader with a URL of a source that catalogues the quotes by Rowling in actual interviews so that the reader can actually go and check out her comments and see what they think for themselves (the linked page has synopses with links to the actual online holdings of the interviews themselves that the reader can visit and investigate): http://www.accio-quote.org/themes/death.htm.

However, the real question here is not limited to that of an "authorial intent" embodied in interview quotes outside the texts in question themselves. So, one should examine the text itself to see what is said about death. The first thing to note is that the arch bad-guys in the story are called "death eaters." In this name the bad guys are defined as bad not by "eating death" in the sense of accepting death. Rather they are "death eaters" in the sense of trying to become immortal by "swallowing death" through magic/technology. In other words, the arch bad-guys in the story do exactly what Mr. Woodard is accusing Rowling of advocating: trying to avoid death or the question of death by means of magic/technology. It is not a sideline trait of the bad-guys either. It is not something that Rowling throws in simply to "cover her bases." It is a central tenet of the bad crowd, the precise temptation Voldemort, as the arch villain, uses to lure people into his camp. It is the central defining tenet of the bad guys to such a degree that it is THE tenet from which their name as a group comes.

The "good side," on the other hand, epitomized in the person of Albus Dumbledore (and NOT the political powers that be in the English wizarding world, the Ministry of Magic, with whom Dumbledore is often in tension), speak of death in terms strongly reminiscent of CS Lewis' "Further up and Further In" chapter of the final installment of the Chronicles of Narnia, The Last Battle. Dumbledore tells Harry "To the well organized mind, death is but the next great adventure." (Sorcerer's Stone, American trade paperback edition by Scholastic, page 297. For the record, for the uninformed, this title is altered from the UK Edition by Bloomsbury, which was "The Philosopher's Stone," an element in medieval Trinitarian alchemical thought).

4. Technology, Magic, Analogy, Allegory and Symbolist Literature

This brings me to one of my central criticisms of Mr. Woodard's piece: does JK Rowling, in the Harry Potter series, praise technology and a "technological imperative" by embodying it in the "magic" in her fictional world?

Indeed, I have heard that Rowling herself has likened the magic in her "potterverse" (as it is sometimes called in online circles) to technology. I have tried for a day or two and cannot find, in online sources, the actual quote itself. I am fairly sure I have seen her quoted as speaking of magic as like technology, but have as of yet not been able to find the quote and am a bit too pressed for time at the present to search further, due to deadlines for publishing opportunities and the need to find summer work to pay the bills. (I am assuming my bringing this quote up without a source will not ruffle Mr. Woodard's feathers, since a facile, and inaccurate, reading of my doing so would be that I am supporting the material content of his argument, but simply not doing his homework for him. If some other wished to do that homework, the above cited site, accio-quote.org, would be a good starting place with a decent search engine for quote contents.) The basic gist of such a statement, however, is that Rowling has spoken of the magic in her works as being analogous to technology.

(ASIDE Note: a good exposition of the traditional history of "magic" in relation to technology that discusses both elements and their developments and divergences, as well as their real world cultural ramifications can be found written by Alan Jacobs at http://www.firstthings.com/article.php3?id_article=2502. The article is on the Potter series and the content on real world magic and real world technology is half to three-quarters into the article). END ASIDE

Analogies can be used in different ways. They can be used as strict allegories, defined by a one-to-one correlation - as in "this thing in my work/story has a one to one correspondence to X in the real world because that is one of the things my work is mainly about is making a distinct statement about this thing in the real world." As partially stated above, Mr. Woodard's reads JK Rowling as employing this mode of analogy and saying "technology is really cool and is pretty much our savior ... oh yeah, I forgot, it hasn't solved our death thing yet, so I better wrap that up with a pretty bow somehow." Analogy may also, however, be used as a sort of "guide" in explaining something - as in "it's sort of like this ... sort of ... but not totally because it is also sort of like this other thing." In the case of magic in Rowling's work, I think there is a bit of both of these ways, or uses, of analogy in her statement of magic being like technology - but NONE of Mr Woodard's fallacious reading.

(ASIDE Note: For more on the nature of strict allegory and distinction of it from something like properly symbolist literature, I would suggest Dr John Granger's treatment of symbolist literature in The Hidden Key to Harry Potter [Zossima Press] ... certain discussion of allegory and analogy in relation to "typology," can also be found in the work of Melito, bishop of Sardis, [d. 180 CE/AD])END ASIDE

Magic functions in Rowling's fictional works somewhat like technology functions in the "real world." It does so in a very similar way to that in which many German philosophers had to come to view science in the wake of the First World War. Technology and science can produce some good effects. But Science and technology are also capable of being used for atrocities that we had scarcely imagined before that War. We had always known atrocious death tolls in wars, but never to the level of concrete grotesqueness as science now afforded us (e.g. via such chemical weapons as mustard gas and the like). These uses of technology are, in short, the "dark arts" in the potterverse.

A Key instance here is Mr. Woodard's obvious un-familiarity with the concrete details of Rowling's actual works. He claims that the students at Hogwarts study, among other subjects, dark arts. This is technically a flatly false statement. I quote: "Harry's education at Hogwarts rivals modern medical schools in its philistine pragmatism. Whether studying spells and potions, dark arts or magical beasts, the sorcery students learn only how to "do" things, like flying on brooms, de-gnoming gardens or creating gluttonous feasts. Magic is just another craft." In point of fact, at Hogwarts only defense against the darks arts is taught - the dark arts themselves are not taught at all, let alone under a general group heading of magic, as just another course subject (not to mention that, as I state elsewhere, I find Mr. Woodard's heavy handed tones here and throughout the article to be self-inflated arrogance in the extreme, especially given what seems to me to be rather scant evidence offered that he has an understanding of either general realm in question or the works themselves adequate to be making such judgments, and I can construe the heavy tones as nothing other or less than pompously self-appointed pontification)

Now, had one not read the texts or not read them carefully, one might think the difference between "dark arts" and "defense against the dark arts" a trifling distinction. In text, however, it is precisely mentioned as a sticking point for Dumbledore. He disagrees with the approach of the school called Durmstrang, which actually teaches on the dark arts themselves (this material can be found in the fourth Potter book, Goblet of Fire). They (Durmstrang) teach the actual methodologies of the dark arts under the thought that this is the best way to know how to defend against the dark arts. I do not say "under the pretense" of this thought because the headmaster of that school, Karkaroff, seems to have proven himself no longer a closet death eater. When Voldemort returns at the end of book 4, Karkaroff refuses to return to the dark lord's fold, from which he had reformed. The genuineness of his reform seems to be validated in text in book 6 by the fact that his refusal to return to Voldemort's camp seems to be the impetus for the fact that his body has been found in a shack. The presence of the "dark mark" above the shack indicates that the murder (the Avada Kedavra killing curse) was committed by death eaters. Karkaroff seems to have been truly reformed and genuinely a good guy now, but Dumbledore seriously takes issue with his (Karkaroff's) philosophy that the best way to teach defense against dark arts is to teach how the arts themselves work. The matter has also been noted by those on the "bad" side: Draco Malfoy relates (in book 4) that his father, Lucius, would rather have sent his son to Durmstrang than Hogwarts, and Draco specifically praises the dark arts aspects of the Durmstrang teaching method.

This material indicates anything but a whole-hearted rally cry on the part of Rowling for an unequivocal "technological imperative." Even in the dimension of magic in her world where, as an image, magic connects with the issue of power and, further, specifically technological power (and there are many other dimensions to this image than simply these), the thought cannot be taken as univocal praise for the wonders of technology, with no consideration of moral character.

5. Philosophy and Harry Potter

Mr. Woodard lumps Spinoza and Descartes together among the early modern/Enlightenment philosophers who inform Rowling's "stunted understanding of education and human reason."
Baruch (or Benedictus in Latin) Spinoza was a 17th century ethicist of Portuguese Jewish decent who was actually barred from the Synagogue because of his philosophy. His ethics were based in his hard-line materialist determinism. For Spinoza, effectively, the only real ethical action a person could make was to accept consciously the materialistly determined nature of the world and history. Whether or not one agrees with Rowling, this is not where she falls on the spectrum that has determinism as one end and existentialism as the other. She falls on the end with the French Existentialists. This is evidenced in Dumbledore's response to Harry at the end of Chamber of Secrets, that it is our actions and choices, not our pre-conceived abilities, that reveal who we really are. This position is very contra determinism. Likewise, Dumbledore responds at the end of Order of the Phoenix and in Half Blood Prince that the "central" prophecy means something only because Voldemort made it mean something in the way he chose to take it and act upon it.

Secondly, Rene Descartes was likewise in the 17th century and is credited with being the father of modern philosophy and the proper beginning of the Enlightenment and the "modern" period. You will sometimes here the terms "Cartesian Dualism" and "Descartes' 'Ghost in the Machine.'" These terms both refer to a radical separation of reality into only two spheres, the spiritual/mental "res cogitens" (thinking being/thing/reality) and the material "res extensia" (extended being/thing/reality). First I would highly doubt that Mr. Woodard understands Apostolic, Patristic and Medieval Christian thought well enough to realize the sharp distinction that exists between an idea of physicality such as "res extensia" and something like St Paul's concept of the body ("soma" in Greek) as a relational concept (the mode by, or rather in, which the person relates to others and the world and one of the key ways, although not the sole way, a person relates to God).

I would also suspect Mr. Woodard’s own view of "physicality as such" corresponds much more closely to Descartes "res extensia" than to the medieval and Patristic concepts from which that concept radically departed. Indeed, I suspect Mr. Woodard's own thinking in this area is much closer to Descartes' concept than are the concepts in Rowling's works. I would guess that, could the matter be investigated accurately, Mr. Woodard's view of the human person as both a spiritual and a physical being is probably very close to Descartes' "ghost in the machine" ... the spiritual "part" simply located somehow in the physical with some type of magical control over it.

(ASIDE Note: I put the word "part" in quotes just now in a specific reference to the development of doctrine within the Catholic Church. The human person is key concept employed in that development for the Church as the "mystical body of Christ." Twice in the conciliar history of the Catholic Church she has rejected such materialist thinking with regards to the issue of Scripture and Tradition and their relation in the life of the mystical body. At both the Council of Trent and at the Second Vatican Council there were "traditionalist" camps pushing for a material definition of the scopes of Scripture and Tradition as "sources" [the orginal suggested title of the Dei Verbum Dogmatic Consitution of Vatican II being "De Fontibus" - "of the sources"]. The language that these camps argued for in this point, at both councils, was taken from a Latin mistranslation of chapter 27 of St Basil's "On The Holy Spirit", where St Basil addresses the matter of Scripture and Tradition. The Latin mistranslation that these camps argued for utilizing was "partem et partem" - "into part and into part" - the same "part" and materialist language of "extension" as characterized Descartes' materialistically dualistic thinking on materiality and physicality, and likewise the same concepts that I see in Mr Woodard's version of "objective reality." [This material on these matters in conciliar history in the Catholic Church can be found in the commentary on the Dei Verbum document of the Second Vatican Council, The Dogmatic Constitution on Divine Revelation, written by then Joseph Cardnial Ratzinger, now Pope Benedict XVI, which can be found in: Joseph Ratzinger, "Dogmatic Constitution on Divine Revelation: Origin and Background," in Commentary on the Documents of Vatican II. Translated by William Glen-Doepel. General Editor: Herbert Vorgrimler, {New York: Herder and Herder, 1968} - Ratzinger emphasizes the idea that to begin with the question of "two sources" (as did schema C of the drafting of Dei Verbum) cloaks "positivistic" tendencies that restrict revelation to teaching that one acquires from "sources," and it is significant that he points to "the garment of ecclesiastical traditionalism" as the device with which these tendencies are cloaked [pages 162 and 170] ... this is the same type of "ecclesiastical traditionalism" which I see in the site listed for the comment by Athos to Woodard's piece here, which I discuss more fully in an aside under my point 7. END ASIDE).

If you listen to the formulations of "Wizarding Logic" in Rowling's works drawn by somebody like Steve Vanderark (of the website known as the "Harry Potter Lexicon"), you will find that one of the precise things about magic in Rowling's potterverse is that it facilitates getting away from the Cartesian type of "materialist" concept of physicality. VanderArk described "Wizarding Logic" as things being defined relationally rather than materially/spatially (these comments are drawn from VanderArk’s presentation at the "Lumos" symposium in Las Vegas in the summer of 2006, which I attended personally). In the wizarding world, VanderArk notes, everything is always only about forty seconds away, not matter what the physical distance is, which allows things to be defined relationally in a way that encourages thinking about those relationships as we might not have before.

VanderArk used the example of getting to Hogwart's by the Hogwart's express. Our usual way of thinking about it would be that since Hogwarts is in Scotland and Seamus (I think) lives in Scotland, you would think it would make more sense for Seamus to travel directly from his home to Hogsmeade and Hogwarts at the beginning of the school year. But it takes just as long for him to "portkey" or "side-along apparition" to Kings Cross Station in London as it does to do the same to Hogsmeade, so the matter is freed up to be relationally determined and for relational elements to be emphasized. Such a student of course goes to Kings Cross Station, platform 9 and 3/4, to board the train like all other students - because that is how students get to Hogwarts. Riding the train is a part of the social situation that helps form the education at Hogwarts. This is an almost distinctly contra-"res extensia" way of looking at physicality.
To be sure, these matters could bear much further scrutiny and more nuanced arguments could be developed and debated on both sides of the fence. Mr. Woodard's exposition of the matter, however, does none of this. Rather it displays, at best, a cursory-only familiarity with the details of the texts and the concepts at play in them. Furthermore, his simplistic and slipshod lumping together of such thinkers as Descartes and Spinoza indicates a grossly inadequate understanding of those philosophical matters themselves, let alone how Rowling's work does or does not compare to them.

6. The Argument "Ex Homine"

I have saved this point for next to last and the following point for last because of their personal nature. In the last point I will make I will explain why I find Mr. Woodard's comments to be not only base and sophomoric argumentation at best, but, moreover highly and repugnantly offensive to human dignity and suffering. I save these two points for last in the hopes of allowing the reader to process the above considerations on the content of Mr. Woodard's piece uninhibited before reading the following more personal comments and arguments.
For this present, next to last, point, I will begin by saying that I do not enjoy making this type of an argument but I believe it is pertinent here. The argument I am about to employ here is technically fallacious for arguing the specific points in such a debate. Technically it is called the logical fallacy of the "ad hominem" argument (the "argument against the person"). I use it here because the one place I find an "ad hominem" argument to be valid is when another specific "hominem" argument has already been employed by the other.

The particular type of argument I accuse Mr. Woodard of is not, as far as I know, a standardly named fallacy, but rather a name I have taken the liberty of coining myself. His arguments are what I call the fallacy of the "ex homine" (the "argument from the person").

In addition to the standardly termed "ad hominem" fallacy, I see several other types of "hominem" arguments possible in fallacious argumentation. For example, there is what I call the "pro homine," or the argument "to/for the person." In more base conversation this "pro homine" argument is referred to as "brown-nosing" or "sucking up." Sometimes even an accusation of what I am calling "pro homine" is used as a fallacious argument. One version of this logically fallacious accusation is called (in logic, as an actually named logical fallacy, as a sub-type of "ad hominem" argument) the "poisoning the well argument." In effect it says that "nothing this person says should be considered at all simply because, even if just on the surface, they appear to have something to gain personally from the matter being decided in one way rather than another"(in other words it accuses a person of having fallen under the sway of a "pro homine" argument). The fallacy that Mr. Woodard is guilty of here, however, I would strongly argue, is primarily the "ex homine" argument. In this argument one says, or, in Mr. Woodard's case, allows to be implied, "you should listen to me – I am knowledgeable and these statements should be taken on my word because of my expertise and wisdom."

Mr. Woodard's credentials listed at the end of this piece state that he is the former editor of the Canadian conservative magazine Western Standards and now teaches in Calgary. I can only hope that that magazine ended Mr. Woodard's tenure as editor as a means to their own pursuit of higher standards of academic and journalistic integrity. As for having held the position of editor itself, it does not sway my opinion. I have had enough personal experience with editors, in editorial assistant work that I have done, to know that holding such a position provides no intrinsic guarantees against myopic vision taken to a level of almost anti-sense and anti-good-judgment. Some editors do the position well, and some do it very poorly. There are no guarantees. (Michael Cook's willingness to afford me this opportunity to speak on MercatorNet's forum seems to me to be a sign of a desire for fairness that leans in the direction of high journalistic integrity).

As for Mr. Woodard's teaching credentials, it would at leas help, in the afore-mentioned "ex homine" argument, to know his precise educational and teaching credentials. Does he have at least a BA in a humanities field that would make it believable that he would have actually studied these philosophical figures in any depth? Or did he simply "read up" on some of it in the simplistic beginner's synopses of the likes of the Copplestone series and then slap, pastiche-style, his own predetermined conclusions about the Harry Potter series on top of that? As for his teaching now, does he teach at an accredited academic institution capable of conferring at least a BA degree, an institution using his own teaching in the process of conferring such degrees? Or does he rather teach at a Christian highschool in a church basement?

I myself received my highschool education in such church basement schools and consider that I received a good education. In the field of academic and cultural public debate, however, I list the credentials of my BA in Philosophy and English, my MA in Theology and the PhD in Biblical studies on which I am currently working. My father taught highschool math in at least one of those church highschools, and I think he did an excellent job of it. Public debate in mathematics is far less likely and common than the same in the fields of philosophy, theology, culture and literature. Were such public mathematics debate a reality and my father involved in it, however, he would not have listed as his credentials in such debate his teaching mathematics in a Christian highschool. He would have listed rather his MA in mathematics and the fact that he competently taught computer-programming languages for twenty years as part of the faculty of an accredited college capable of conferring the degrees of BA and BS.

7. My Own Argument "ex homine": How Mr. Woodard's piece offends personally (my argument "ex homine" – from my personal experience) .
Finally, on a personal level I am extremely offended by Mr. Woodard's cavalier and snide comments that not so much touch on, but rather trample barbarically over, matters that resonate very deeply in the lives and recent memories of some such as myself. I quote: "Despite our electronic heart monitors and computerized intravenous drips, modern technological optimism is finally colliding with the unavoidable reality of death."
I cared for my own father through a heart attack that, by all laws of probability and physics, should have claimed his life. He underwent initial heart surgery for the implanting of two stints in the two arteries, left and right, that supply the heart itself with blood, the left of which arteries had full blockage at the very top where it beaks off from the main artery supplying the whole heart. The night after that operation was complete my father went into atrial fibrillation that topped out at 220 beats/minute (the "normal" high end for a-fib is 120 to 130 registered-beats/minute). Normally medication (digitalis) works to calm a-fib but occasionally a jolt from the paddles is necessary. In such cases as paddles are necessary, if it requires more than one jolt the person is most likely dead. My father took 4 jolts from the paddles that night. I consider his survival at that point to be a genuine miracle from the Lord. It was a miracle, however, that was delivered alongside, in concert with, using the available medical technology. It was also a miracle that, as I shall relate in a moment, did not "ensure his immortality" through technology ... but did afford another few years for my father and I to work on our relationship and express our love for each other.

1.5 years after that heart attack, in December of 2005, my father was diagnosed with malignant esophageal cancer. Just under four months later, on March 27, 2006, at 5:45 pm, he died. It was a very rough ride and I spent the last two weeks of my father's life taking the "night shift" in his hospital room (for much of the stay at home before that I took the "night shift" on the couch beside his hospital bed in my parents’ family room).

Those two weeks, and the whole four months, were for my father, quite frankly, from a standpoint of psychological experience, a living hell. While he was at home he was on a narcotic pain-killer that caused much disruption of normal sleep patterns, as well as disorientation and occasional mild hallucination. When my father was moved to the hospital they began administering morphine through the IV "drip" referred to so glibly by Mr. Woodard. This pain killer greatly increased disruption of sleep and turned my father's day to day existence into an endless haze of varying shades of light received only through a window, losing track of not only time of day, but what day or month it was – a common effect of extreme sleep deprivation. Without the morphine, however, his direct pain would have been infinitely greater living hell. Even when at home on only the narcotic medication, when a dose would wear off he was visibly and aurally, undeniably in great pain. In the end morphine was a thing that I was simultaneously both very grateful for, and hated with a passion for what it did to my father's state of mind.

Here I leave in the only fully acerbic comment from my original email to the editor because I feel that Mr. Woodard's cavalier and arrogant callousness demands it and that it is something that should be heard. If Mr. Woodard wishes to prove his point concerning this type of technology he should attempt to do so not by flamboyant words securely hidden behind the screen of the Internet, but by action. He should "step up to the plate" and prove his point by dying of cancer himself without the aid of any pain medication. Perhaps "Athos" would like to continue support of Mr. Woodard’s "superb commentary" by joining him in the venture.
(I highly doubt that Athos will appreciate that comment, however. I just looked at the website listed for Athos and it took me several tries do decipher even exactly what was being said in the title of the site, which made my own writing look downright Hemmingway-esque, which is a remarkable feat in itself. But such seems to me to be the standard MO of the "Rad Trads," who seem to me to have very little actual understanding of the Catholic and Orthodox Tradition itself, yet seem to pride themselves on being more "traditional" than even that Tradition itself, a position best designated as the "ism" of "traditionalism" [cf the aside above] rather than any truly relevant grasp of the actual Tradition – as well as those who self-designate using terms such as "conserberalism." This last appellation seems to me to be striving for the Greek "golden mean" between the two extremes of a radically limited and banal, to use one of Mr. Woodard's favored terms, political system, rather than progressing to the healthier realization that it is this binary dualistic language of humanly constructed false dichotomies that should be pitched out the window. They purport to be "getting beyond such" but their actual die-hard adherence to it is evidenced in their clinging to the language. GK Chesterton considered such "Greek column" golden-mean thinking to be, yes "stable," but placing the person in clear and present danger of death by radical boredom, in contrast to what he call the "romance" of true "orthodoxy." ... Cf the "The Romance of Orthodoxy" chapter in Chesterton's Orthodoxy.)

Mr. Woodard, in regards to the harsh tones I have just used here and my former comments on "ad hominem" arguments ... every argument such as the ones you make in your piece are always ad hominem arguments. As far as I can see they are always aimed at tearing others down for the sole purpose of building up only yourself and your own constituency, which I would call a very dark art. I would direct you to St Paul's comments on the matter in 1 Corinthians 8:1 – "knowledge puffs up, but love builds up."

There are valid questions concerning the Harry Potter works in regards to Traditional Christian thought and teaching. In my own experience it seems to me, sadly, that all too often, even when the legitimate questions are being asked, the way that they are asked falls short of legitimate dialogue. In your piece, however, I do not see even the legitimate questions, let alone a legitimate manner of asking them.

(I personally do not believe the truth of these matters lies in a negative answer to such questions as "is Rowling's work morally acceptable?" or positive answers to those such as "is the magic in Rowling's potterverse deviant?" - but they are legitimate questions that can be asked in legitimate ways ... but your piece really does seem to me to be, at best, only using such questions as a springboard for your own self-aggrandizement and grudges).

I would have no way of knowing anything about your personal life and so I say the following solely as a hypothetical pondering. Perhaps some of the callousness of your comments comes from personal experience of the death of a loved one, and an ensuing jadedness towards what you thought, or didn’t think, technology could or could not, or did or did not, offer in the situation. If such is the case I would suggest you join the rest of us and take it to where it belongs – therapy or pastoral counseling, whichever is more comfortable and profitable for you. If that hypothetical is an actuality for you, I would encourage you to cease using the public pulpit in failed attempts to grapple with things that are best worked on elsewhere. Either way I would suggest you do your homework and research better and respect your audience at large by employing sound and valid modes or argumentation, if you intend continue writing unfounded and acerbic pieces like this one. Constituency mongering only works for so long, it seems to me. It may work for Harold Bloom, but personally I hope that when I am his age I hope my company is more pleasurable for my friends and family than Bloom's general reputation seems to suggest that his is for his friends and family, and that I’m not thought of as that much of a, at best, curmudgeon.

Most Sincerely,
M. Brett Kendall
PhD Candidate, Theology (Biblical Studies)
Fordham University
posted by Merlin at 1:16 AM


Comments on "My Full Response to Mr. Joe Woodard's Piece Criticising Harry Potter"

 

Anonymous Anonymous said ... (May 24, 2007 4:46 PM) : 

Dear Mr. Kendall,

While on the whole I appreciated your paper and the well-informed responses within it, I was a little taken aback by your comment, "Or does he rather teach at a Christian highschool in a church basement?"

Yes, you go on to say that your father taught in a Christian school and explained you were specifically referring to someone attempting to evidence knowledge in areas where they are - in reality - lacking, but the statement itself was a bit callous, which was odd seeing how your entire paper was a response to an author's own callousness.

My sister teaches in a Christian high school, and her husband is the Administrator. This school started in the basement of a home and has become a predominant Christian school in the area and one of the foremost non-public college prep schools in the state. My sister, who "only" holds an Associates Degree in science, is self-taught, well-read, well-spoken, and knows her stuff. My brother-in-law has engaged in debates with college professors and never been unable to hold his own both in knowledge and ability to express himself. He has also written several philosophical dissertations and teaches a philosophy class for seniors which delves into Christianity in the post-modern world, yet he *only* holds a BA degree.

I believe it would suit anyone with a 'higher' education to remember that the degree does not necessarily define the man or woman who possesses it (or not).

Respectfully,

Morganna

 

Blogger Merlin said ... (May 28, 2007 5:31 PM) : 

Morganna,
I'm going to drop Bold and Ital heading in here to facilitate finding things and least some sense of flow because the response is a bit longish . And I will go ahead here at the outset and request your patience with me not only on the length, but in reading through to see where I wind up ... I know it is a long one and a long way round, there is a lot in it to talk about and I'm pressed on time and so and not really able to go back and get things nice and tight

Intro

I really want to apologize for taking so long in replying to your comment, I have been meaning to do so for days but things have just been a wee bit hectic around me for the past week or so and I have been trying to get preliminary work done on 2 of my papers from this last semester that I want to shop for publishing, as well 3 essays on the pop-culture/lit/philosophy level (Harry Potter, Spiderman trilogy and Pirates of Caribbean trilogy) that I want to write and shop to inter-disciplinary academic journals like the journal of the PCA (Pop Culture Association)

I want to start by thanking you for your comment. In the end I will come down basically where I started, but I consider it very legitimate endeavors to ask these kinds of questions and to discuss the matters in them ... they are very real matters in our culture at large and very much a part of what Rowling is dealing with in Harry Potter in terms of of echoing the most famous work by her favorite author, "Pride and Predjudice." And I really do hope, and really am striving, for not being bombastic or having attitude in where I come down in the same place as I started from but hopefully all parties a little bit ahead now from having discussed it.

Callousness

Your main criticism seems to me to be of callousness, and I have to plead guilty to a certain degree on that. I live in the Bronx. One day at about 10 am on a weekday morning on my way down to Manhattan I was walking down the tunnel to the D line station ad Fordham rd and Grand Concourse in the Bronx, Fordham rd being the official dividing line between north and south Bronx. About 20 yards before the turnstyles, right in front of the machine from which you can buy metro-cards using your arm card or cash, I stepped over a pool of blood about 3-4 feet in diameter. It was mostly mopped up but the little pools still left were clearly from a human being .... and whatever person bled that pool bled ALOT. There was a cop on the other side of the turnstyles standing guard and I simply did not have the stoumach to ask what had happened. That guard position is not a standard thing, although it is unfortunately a fairly regular occurrence.

I ride that D line twice a week since January, and I finally broke down and bought an MP3 Player so that I could utilize the ride time by doing reading. What had been distracting me from reading on the subway before that was conversations between 14 yr old girls that would make half of the Harley-riding guys I used to work construction with blush.

It takes a certain amount of callouses to survive in the city without going insane (and believe me, the insomnia I had my first month here felt like I was cracking up). But I also think it takes a certain amount of callouses to survive anywhere in our culture. And here I ask for your patience with me (sorry for the bold, just wanted to make sure that was caught on the first reading because I realize this response is long and it is easy to lose an individual sentence in the midst of it, even if it is a sentence like that that is important to me that you hear, that I know some of this is thick because I don't have the time at present to both get it all written AND style edit it, but I greatly appreciate your patience in wading through it in honest dialogue). What I am trying to communicate is not "Yeah, I am calloused ... you try surviving here with without callouses!" - in a moment I will be trying to provide another interpretation, maybe alongside the callouses.

I think that the city is like a big focusing lens. The problems are everywhere but in suburbia it is easy to avoid thinking about it in direct terms, in a way that is just not really possible here in the city if you are at all paying attention to what is going on around. Having lived in certain suburban settings and worked construction on suburban homes etc, that is where I have come from (although my home town is what I would call a small town trying to catch up with suburbia without thinking about the urban much at all). All the kids I went to college with and in my MA program were from the suburbs.

I am one of those who tends to be critical of the suburbs. I do so not it trying so say "the suburbs suck and the city is the only 'real' place." I base my criticism partially in the work of Henry Adams, nephew of John Quincy Adams, third president of the USA (I think, may be be off on a few of those details though). I had to read a piece called "The Dynamo and the Virgin" from Henry Adams' The Education of Henry Adams for an American Lit survey class in undergrad. In that section Adams contrasts to social models by way of two primary images. The first is the Medieval Church building at the center of towns that drew the community in in orbit around it, establishing social order. The second is the new dynamos he saw at the 1900 world's fair in Paris, the precursors of the internal combustion engine. Adams predicted, 100 yrs ago, a shift in sociological model and that the dynamo was the symbol of the age to come - things being thrown outward rather than drawn inward and together, a segregation fulfilled in the wide geographical compartmentalization of of housing developments and strip mall shopping areas (actually some modern rock bands have displayed surprising insight and familiarity with such material, such as the band Cake having a song called "Satan is my Motor" that, from the lyrics, I would find it very hard, although not impossible I guess, to believe they had no familiarity with Adams' "the Dynamo and the Virgin" piece ... the message is all "my good intentions and niceness versus the cut-throat mechanization of my culture and can I really say I am remaining charitable and all in it" and the image used is at the same time one of the key building blocks of the surburban social model and the material heir to the dynamos Adams saw at the 1900 worlds fair - the automobile and its internal combustion engine ... I have a beat up car in NYC and am as aggressive a driver as anybody body I know, and manage to survive pretty well at it, but I admit that these questions are ones we have to ask ... are we leading ourselves down unhealthy paths? )

But on a deeper level I criticize also in that I think there is a real danger in the suburban model that is actuallized heavily on a daily basis. The danger is the systems that get set up for numbing the pain of the ills that ail us in our culture, in a way that is "innocuous" in a way the city can't really pull off. suburbia simply lends itself to harmful anesthesization in a way the city has greater difficulty pulling off (although definitely not for lack of trying). In truth, this is t least as great a threat as any threats that exist in pain meds such as morphine for those dying of cancer, that Mr Woodard feels so free to speak on.

Like I said, I am not saying "the burbs are full of yuppies and suck - the city rules" just noting these things and that callousness is an issue in both places.

The Comment on Christian Schools and Christian School teachers: Constituency mongering and gurus

I want to say first that I appreciate your seeing that this comment was in the context of an ad hominem response to the ex homine argument. Not all people read closely enough to catch it, no matter how well you spell it out and I am still ever working on my writing style - some days my writing style can make Kant and Derrida look like Hemmingway but, like I said, I am working on it

So, now here is the place where I want to address the concern of the abrasiveness in my comment on possibly being a teacher in a small Christian school and provide an at least complimentary explanation alongside the callouses. That explanation is animated emotion ... anger. What I am particularly arguing that Woodard is doing in his piece(and what I am very averse to) I call "constituency mongering" and the "guru phenomenon." It happens across the board, with both "conservatives" and "liberals" (of whatever degree, even the ones who say, "we're conservative but we're not even going to give ourselves a name, we're just going to spend all our time griping about the 'neo-cons' or the 'crunchy-cons' etc" or those who do the same in the "liberal" counterpart camps). It also happens across the board in both Christian and non-Christian settings.

One of my main complaints was maybe one of frustration, of "good grief man, if you're going to go with an Ex Homine argument at least don't further insult my intelligence, at least try to put up a good front of the thing ... at least don't insult my intelligence by assuming I don't know the more effective and less effective places to agrrandize in such arguments, at least showboat in the places that make sense." And that really is the biggest frustration ... Woodard does not need to worry about such things ... his constituency is going to buy it, not on any strength in it, but on the very practice of unhealthy constituency building, neurotically damaging to us.

Whatever happens in the camps of those who disagree with me on the Christian faith, I hope they settle it out and come to the true source of Peace and Truth ... but with those who "agree" with me, as in in being committed in a faith community to trying to be open to God's Grace in Christ and ... when I see constituency mongering going on it makes my blood boil a little, but it makes my blood boil partly (and I'm not going to insult your intelligence by telling you it is wholly this, that I have completely achieved purity of intention on this) because my heart aches ... its not healthy for us - it does us absolutely no good, either for ourselves or in reaching those we are supposed to be trying to reach with the Gospel (in truth I think that the evangelical impotence flows from the same source as the personal damage)

I believe that our experience of communion as Christians is a great thing. but one of my primary principles is, "the higher the leap, the harder the ground." If you look at a couple in their retirement years who have grown close, who have grand children who maybe think of grandma and grandpa as a little funky but generally good, and on the deeper level know way down inside how much grandma and grandpa love them and ... you see that a lifetime of sexual practice in the communion of loving marriage is an amazing thing that drew these two closer and closer together in something truly mystical that flows out to their family in a unique and natural way. When you ride the D line from the Fordham rd stop in the Bronx to the Columbus Circle stop at 59th, the SW corner of Central park in Manhattan twice a week - you get a feel for exactly how much damage can come through our sexuality and sexual practice in a grittier context ... the higher the leap the harder the ground.

Usually when this type of thing goes on it involves unhealthy constituency building and constituency mongering going hand in hand (there is neither time nor space here to delve into the philosophical backgrounds on this but I will just give a pointer towards Heidegger as the place in contemporary continental philosophy where the issue of constituency is discussed in the heading of the "Dasman" - the "they-self").

In short, people neurotically look for gurus to be the center of their constituency and those such as Mr Woodard go around vying for the positions. I am opposed to it no matter how high the level of education. Harold Bloom has a VERY high level of education and prestige, and I think the guy is a HUGE constituency-mongering guru blowhard.

This, for me, is primarily a matter gaurding one's own camp from it becoming a laughing stock of a ghetto. When Ghettos are unavoidably forced on one from outside, one can still live in dignity as a human being, but when one makes one's one home into a ghetto, it becomes a shame. There are some of us who are actually trying to do something real, or at least be open to something real being done through us. I'm not saying we hate Mr Woodard, but we also cannot stand by and watch people doing what he is doing turning our Faith into a ghetto if we can help it. Whatever potential there was in my comment for reading it as derogatory (which it was not actually meant as) was left in in the purpose of saying "see? ... this is what you open us up to when you go doing this sort of crap, Mr Woodard ... turning our home into a barely habitable sewer ... please stop before we have to kick you out altogether."

In short, I know it might seem combative but I really do believe it ... But that comment in my response above all else was to say "DO NOT try to turn the Faith that is the only thing that really gives me hope into that sort of political garbage. I WILL fight to the death on it. Get off your butt and actually start trying to operate 'above reproach' as much as possible - stop giving the rest of us, especially those of us who started off in small Christian school that, as unfair as the situation/perception/accusation might be, already gives us a handicap in public dialogue, don't give us a further undeserved handicap in cultural dialogue ... stop running your banally ignorant mouth - you're doing no good for anybody or anything except for your own and others neurotically craving self perceptions ... and the rest of us want you to stop using the Faith like that"

Macrostructure Method: Chiasm
some of my response on these larger issues is present in the response in ways I felt like it would unnecessarily encumber the piece even more than it already was encumbered. The 7 point macro-structure of my response was not something I felt it would be productive to go into in a piece that was already very long, but it was specifically structured to address not only the content of Woodard's piece, as in his charges against Rowling's work, but also the larger issue of what the piece was doing and what lines of personal dignity it crossed in doing so. The actual macro-structure device of the 7 point is actually the same as I have often proposed for the Harry Potter series: a 7 element chiasm. That is a technical phenomenon in ancient writing that I have discussed in more depth on this site but I'll do the basics again here in case you or anybody else reading has not had the chance or the time to check out that stuff (for the 7 part chiasm of Harry Potter theory, see the "X Marks/Chiasm" perma-link at the top of the left side bar). A chiasm is a structure that has a number of "elements" or "sections." The sections in the first half correspond to those in the second half and there is a "crux" element in the dead middle or center that is the interpretive key. The second half element is a further development of its counter-part in the first half and the development in the second half element of any pair (development from the first half element of the pair) is made by way of passing through the crux in the middle.

An explanation of the fact that a chiasm can have any number of elements, and it can be an odd number of an even number is in order. In even numbered chiasms it is the connection between the two inmost elements that is the interpretive cruxt, whereas in odd-numbered chiasms (such as my response and as I argue for the HP series) the crux is a single element.
Here the old adage is really true: a picture is worth a thousand words (the structure device takes its name from the Greek letter Chi, "X" ... and note, depending on the discipline you will find variance on the name and the structure itself ... in Biblical studies the names/structuring devices of "inclusio" and "ring composition" are very close to chiasm).

A 6 element chiasm would have the connection between C and C1 as the crux and would look like

A
.....B
..........C
..........C1
.....B1
A1

A 7 point chiasm would have the single "D" element as its crux and would look like:

A
.....B
..........C
...............D (Crux)
..........C1
.....B1
A1


Thus, point 4 in my response is my crux and it is basically meant to have one thing "between the lines" ... that Woodard's piece actually reveals that he is not only incorrect in his reading of Rowling, but that he himself is in fact actually doing exactly the thing of which he accuses her ... materialism thinking.

The flow of the rest of the chiasm works out from there and here is a very basic synopsis of the flow:

A (# 1)=Woodard the person, show-boating and grand-standing

B (# 2)= Woodard the Academic – his methodology as fallacious and unsupported assumptions (he knows, at this point, that Harry will die?),

C (# 3) = Mr Woodards main specific potter charge, on death,

D (# 4) =The Crux – technology, magic, analogy, allegory and materialist thinking.

C1 (#5)= Response to Charges against Potter along the lines of philosophy, IE response to the main components by which he tries to support his specific potter charge in point 3 (Including considerations on Cartesian dualist thinking as a form of Dualism and Spinoza's materialism)

B1 (# 6) = response to Woodard the academic – you’re using an “ex homine” argument and you show no qualifications do so either, either in credentials or in proving yourself, in this piece, as adequate to the task of handling this material

A1 (# 7) = response to Woodard the person – you’re a very inconsiderate and pompous jerk who offends human dignity and experience with your brash and flippant comments on matters that touch deeply in the lives and histories of some who have experienced loss that involved a loved one suffering greatly.


As far as your family, Morgana (and please believe me, I use your name there only to demarcate my return to more direct speech in a , and for no other rhetorical aim ... I myself greatly dislike it when people pull that one on me "and again, Brett/Merlin/etc, I would say " ... I may have used it in the response to Woodard some to say, "yes, you irritate me and yes you have me riled and yes, I will probably makes moves like this to get under your skin," which whould be inconsistent of me, but I appreciate very much you not doing it in your comment here to me ... sorry, if that was a little overly analytic, it is what I do for a living, analyze texts and rhetorical devices etc) , my main thing to say to your sister and brother in law would be ... above all else (well after striving to live in peace and union with God and family) strive not to be a "guru." Strive to be active and when you believe something say it and defend it, and strive to be truly helpful to people who look to you for information and understanding in the field you are in and in other things ... but strive not to become a guru. And that is a difficult one because in our culture as a group at large we tend to look for gurus to validate our identity in fallacious bi-partisan thinking, or what in the academic world is referred to "binary thinking" of "false dichotomies." There will always be people neurotically trying to get a person to be their guru on which to center their party/camp and that is a real temptation, to either give in to it OR to respond against it in a derisive and uncharitable manner. In truth the initial impulse to looking to somebody who is knowledgeable is not a neurotic impulse, it is a healthy and humble admission of places where other people are more knowledgeable etc. But it so easily, so quickly becomes the other thing so often. Sadly, "the world is too much with us" and I am as guilty of that one as any other person.

(although here I simply have one small question concerning your statements about your brother-in-law ... and I honestly am just asking in the manner of asking for clarification and not to be combative. You said your brother-in-law has done several "phiosophical dissertations" but has only a BA. In the academic field the only referent I have to hook the word "dissertation" onto is the regular final qualifier for a PhD, a dissertation of about 200-300 pages. Usually you write a 20-30 page proposal, including an extensive and sometimes annotated proposed bibliography, and once you have that approved you go to work on the dissertation itself, and when you are done you defend it against a panel of 3 readers from your department, who you agreed to as readers and defense panel at the outset of the project. If your brother-in-law did this actual thing he would likely have a, or rather several, as per your comment, PhD degrees. So, I guess I'm just asking for clarification on what the level of the pieces he wrote were, and seriously just on the level of curiosity ... I have this curiosity thing about what is going on in the field, what different avenues people are finding for publishing and discussion and that sort of thing ... the variety of avenues is really interesting a lot of times, the different types and levels of journals and publications that are out there [I know a girl who is working on her dissertation right now in Philosophy but at the present moment is taking a break from it to watch the entire series available to date of the "House MD" TV program because she got an essay slot in the upcoming book on it in the "Philosophy and X ... " series of books] ... but answering me on that one is also not something you should bust your head or phone bill or whatever over if you don't have that info ready to hand/mind and would have to go out of your way to get it)

On a more humorous, although still serious at the core, note, if your sister and brother-in-law are sane and competent I would ask that they take on the chair of the English department where I did my undergrad in philosophy and English. The chair there is not so much of a blowhard as a starry-eyed, nebulous fruitcake who has just enough learning to be dangerous. a year or two ago this dept chair, with a straight face, said to me "you really should check out D. Brown's works" ... I knew the religious controversy but I did last the big popular one, the one they made the movie of (I am treading on thin ice here because Muggle Matters is officially a "DC free zone" on that work, as in "an X-free zone," so I am trying to have as little text here that might even get picked up by a google search, but still make it so you know what I am talking about) - I read the book last December and thought, in response to the chair's recommendation, "even what shred of 'the verdict is still out on you' there was (meaning on the chair of the English dept there ... and there was already plenty that tempted the jury to come back with a verdict of "please never try drugs ... your brain is addled enough as it is')- I just lost what of any reservation there was ... you're a grade a quack who has no business being chair of a department in the humanities" - the Brown biggie probably may have never even seen publishing ink if not for the sales potential of the controversy (on which the "argumentation" is spotty at best, even in the few places where an odd element actually has any connection at all to any real world evidence, and then the backup line "I was only writing fiction" - completely thrashing the considerations of what makes for decently written 'historical fiction' - a legitimate official category of literature with its own accepted guidelines that Brown completely runs over like the proverbial bull in the china shop) - the worst mechanical writing and 2 dimensional characters I think I have ever read in my life.

Of course without a PhD there is not much chance of dislodging that chair, but even a public exposition of the smokiness of the thinking would be good, and maybe get the school to think about replacing the chair with somebody else from the department who is better qualified for being chair of a liberal arts college trying to have an English department with some integrity, (like one of the other profs who I took a number of classes from and who is actually active in the dialogue world on Dorothy Sayers and the Inklings). So I agree with you and then some ... not only does the degree not make the person as a whole, sometimes it doesn't even make the academic - that chair has a PhD and I would like to slap and go 3 stooges on whoever approved his dissertation and gave him the degree.

Like I have said in the com thread for the posting of the original email to the editor, in response to Trish - I'm just a scrapper. I prefer to keep it that way - to be in public dialogue but always to be a scrapper and never a guru (sometimes I take that too far, admittedly, like recently being involved in a bar-room brawl on another site ... I thought, and still think, one of the other commentors was a blowhard and made some distinctly derisive remarks on another commentor who, like your family members, is not an active academic, at least that I know of, but I have met her personally and like her and have read her stuff online and, while I may not agree with all of her takes on all things, I think she is pretty insightful and definitely very dignified as a commentor on Potterdom, but the blowhard couched the insults in "acceptable" language and all, so it was to me like the princess in Braveheart, "peace is made in such ways" to which I responded like Wallace in Braveheart when Hamish asks, "where are you going?" and he says "I'm going to pick a fight" ... I felt bad for the person whose site it was on because they were trying to ride the line and said "I agree to some extent but I hope you stick around because [commentor x] is actually really insightful on this site in comments sometimes" and I thought "I feel sorry for you, I have read your stuff and think you have some good things going, but I have also read X's comments here, even the ones not slamming on the other person, and if you think that commentator's remarks are insightful in general I really feel badly for you ... like I said, I think you have some really good stuff you write on your site but if you listen to blowhards like that too much you are going to wind up like Herbert Chorley, jr minister to the muggle minister in 'The Other Minister' in HBP - with Scrimgeour saying 'clearly it's addled his brains.')

On that line, of trying to stay an scrapper, trying to maintain honesty about being a small but surviving fish in a big pond, rather than a big fish in a small pond (ie a guru), I emailed people I know who are working in philosophy proper on PhDs and said "check it out, feel free to cut me down on anything you see as not up to snuff on the presentation/content of the material dealing with philosophical matters and figures." In the rough I wound up pretty solid but in conversations with such philosophy PhD friends I lit on more information on Descartes and Spinoza and helpful clarifications of those matters that I am going to post on MercatorNet in that combox, just to sort of help the reader with more information, and will probably post them in this combox too, as well as posting part of this comment response over there too ... so there is more information/considerations to come on the philosophy matters themselves as time allows me to get them up in comments

Again, thank you for your comment (and sorry for the delay in response)... I think an interchange like this speaks to something that is vital in our culture and really should be talked about seriously. There are plenty of blog sites around that seem to consist of a group of people who already agree with each other on everything and are just sort of running on about it amongst themselves and calling it dialogue, but I think these things and real dialogue about them are important and that such dialogue is where moves toward healthier things begin. So, again, I genuinely thank you for your patience and willingness to listen and to dialogue and I welcome whatever else you might have to say in response.

sincerely,
Merlin (or Brett or M. Brett Kendall, or Merle Brett Kendall, or Merlinus Ambrettus, or whichever one works most easily :) )

 

Blogger Merlin said ... (May 29, 2007 4:26 AM) : 

Morganna,

I wanted to add in a few extra things that I meant to put in and completely forgot ... there was a Memorial day barbecue with friends, some of whom are off to other places for the summer, and some for good, so I was pressed in getting to that and had to do a more rush job at the end.

In regards to what I was saying about the contrast between the suburbs and the city, especially in light of the context of the issue of the Christian faith, there is another example that I would add another example to the conversations between 14 yr old girls on the subway. Last night I was sitting out and talking with a good friend and his girl friend who is in town until tomorrow night. The gf was absent for a bit from our conversation because she was on the phone with another friend of theirs back home. That other friend was unloading on the gf about the frustration of being the "confidant" in a situation of two yet other friends of theirs who are recently married, within the past year, and are now separated. It is the woman who has called for the separation on the grounds of "not being in love" with the husband. This is a common "reason" listed for divorce and often a take that sees it as skewed view of the matter is an accurate take on the situation - There is a lot of confusion and misguided thinking on the particular role of emotional love in marriage. But the thing in this situation is that the woman had had these issues going on almost from the outset of the relationship going to the level of engagement, but did not attend to the matters out of the thought of expectations of what being engaged and marriage are supposed to be like. Part of the story is that the continuance of the "issues" involved dysfunction in the physical relationship even on the honeymoon, dysfunction that the husband did not pay much attention to and simply kept accepting his wife's directives of "I have a headache, why don't you just go ahead and go play golf and enjoy the day and I'll try to get some rest so I can feel better later on" - while she spent most of the time on the honeymoon feeling physically ill from nerves and crying and the like. and now they are separating and he is, from the reports of the middle friend, completely frustrated because he completely has no clue what the problem is that is now arising.

I asked cautiously "are they ... um ..." - and my good friend replied, before I even finished hemming and hawing for a respectful way to ask the question "yeah, they're church people friends of ours." This story of the couple separating has a counter-part in my recent experience, involving a friend who grew up Catholic but is no longer practicing, but for whom religious questions do play a large role in her thoughts and life in issues that she is still not totally where she wants to be on, still not ... but she is very honest with me in conversation about it with me and is very respectful of my stance of my stance as a practicing Catholic who takes my faith seriously and I have a lot of freedom with her to say what I honestly believe about different related matters, and I in turn am respectful of her feelings and where she is at in her life when we talk.

I got reacquainted with this other, "non religious," friend (or in her words it would be that she is not practicing the Christian or Catholic religion, but is seeking something religiously in her life) when I moved to the city last fall. She was telling me that a year or two before she had broken off an engagement to a guy she had been dating for 5 years. she recently graduated with a BA as a "non-traditional" student and her continued friendship with her ex-fiance is good enough that he was able to come to her commencement, which is where I met him for the first time, and it be a pretty good thing of simply celebrating her graduation and completion of her degree.

My own personal opinion was that his way of looking at the world and her own are different enough that it was probably a good idea they broke it off, but I only met him that once (seemed like a very good guy in general, to be honest) and so I could not offer that as anything other than my off the cuff impression.

What I do know more is my friends statements of the relationship and her reasons for breaking off the engagement and not marrying him. She says, and accurately as far as I can tell from how she describes things further, that she was getting into the marriage ONLY (I personally differentiate here, distinguishing but not wishing to "separate," between the emotion of "being in love" with somebody and being interested in being married from a deep core of where one sees one's life going and what one chooses to commit themselves to, as in a "marriage" objectively above and beyond the emotion. What my friend was speaking of as what she saw herself doing is neither of these, or at least it is not the former of "marrying for love" and is not the latter of "having faith in God in entering into a marriage where it is best if you are honest about the fact that you don't know all there is to know about your spouse but that you will probably never know everything and that you do it because your idea of Christian marriage is larger than just emotionally "falling in love" - but rather simply going ahead on a path because you think "I guess this is what I am supposed to do ... I guess")

I think my friend made a wise choice, given her situation, in not going through with the marriage. And what I am mainly trying to address here is the question of why the "religious couple" made a choice that is ending in alienation and separation and most likely divorce anyway, and the "non-Christian" made a choice that, given her situation, was probably more prudent and probably at least saved her and her fiance greater trials of separation and divorce and alienation down the road.

I really hope that I am not misunderstood on this. My point is not "see? suburban Christianity is so hypocritical - it has the same types of problems but pretends not to." I do think it turns into hypocracy a lot of times, but in the same breath I have to admit to being a huge hypocrite a lot of times myself and that it is something I myself have to work on. But what I am saying is that suburban Christianity carries with it its own unique set of issues in regards to psychological and spiritual health and danger (again, the higher the leap the harder the ground). Unfortunately there is a lot of "expectation" that can turn unhealthy a lot of times. I am not saying we should not try to live our lives up to certain standards, but sometimes there are issues we need to work out before approaching those standards in something like marriage. I am not saying that one should wait until one has a "totally clean bill of psychological/spiritual health" before even thinking about marrying ... or one will be waiting forever, or until they die, without getting married. There are some "issues" issues that you will naturally have to work out as you go along in a marriage, and that, indeed, is a central part of what Christian marriage is. But there is also a fine line of discerning the difference between those levels of issues and the kinds of issues that really should be worked through before entering into marriage, and often times our particular suburban Christian way of approaching the "expectations" of what marriage is and what we are doing in it blur lines that should not be blurred and leaves us distinctly open to certain dangers that hurt us very much when they are actualized(I am not saying the faith itself but the way we weak human beings in a fallen world understand and practice it)

There are other examples of this type of thing in real life I would draw on too, although more briefly. I was an adjunct catechist for the 11th grade CCD confirmation class (the prep year for reception of the sacrament of Confirmation in the Catholic Church ... the age varies from diocese to diocese in the USA, some do it at 11th grade, some at 8th grade. The Eastern Orthodox have the sacrament of Confirmation as well but do it at birth, immediately after the sacrament of Baptism) at my home parish for several years in a row. One year there was a girl in the class who I knew had a "reputation" (IE for promiscuity). I am not saying that in what I am about to relate that I think she exercized some "deep profound wisdom," but I do think she was at least honest in a way that could have been a start of a path towards better health in these regards, and that that possibility was shunted aside by the same type of "uniquely Christian expectations" I have been talking about. This girl, at 17, went through the majority of the year in the class preparing for confirmation because her parents expected her to do that. Towards the end she said she was not sure she was ready or felt right about receiving confirmation. I think, and the main catechist of the class agreed (the main catechist was the wife of a good friend) that the girl was being honest and that her honesty should be respected as at least some attempt to think about where she really was in her life as a person. Unfortunately this advice was not heeded and she was pushed through confirmation.

I have often felt guilty about not doing more for this girl because I really liked her. I had talked with her on several occasions and had gotten the feeling of honest searching from her. They were situations where I was very conscious of the parameters of what was proper and all right to talk about and that they were in a larger public setting (they were more sideline 1 on 1 conversations at things like class group weekend retreats, in full view of others and no risks taken, but also distinctly 1 on 1 conversations), but those conversations were a bit broader and less specific and on more general matters and I knew that I could not be the one to talk to her about more specific things like promiscuity and sexuality in general ... she was 17 and I was in my 20s and it would not have been fair to either her or her family for me to be any type of a closer "confidant" to her. But I have often wished I could have done more in the situation to help her be understood in a way that might be a basis for the beginning of real dialogue, rather than her simply being pushed through Confirmation because it was what was "expected" of her in the Christian/Catholic Faith, or rather by her parents and that particular parish trying to live up to her parents expectations.

Such a move on her part could be seen as "moving away" from her religious affiliation and practice of her family but I think it was in the context of honest questions and a searching for really being honest where she was at, an honesty that could have been a beginning of real dialogue. This is yet another case where "Christian expectations" are wound up in misunderstandings and insecurities, for which there are much healthier avenues for dealing with them, rather than simply "pushing through" in fulfilling the expectations.

That realm of Catholic youth catechesis is very akin to what we have been speaking of in the matter of Christian schools and education ... there are certain expectations that, unfortunately, we often approach in a very un-realistic and un-healthy way. This is where I would class, from my experience, much of the "guru expectations" in regards to those such as Mr Woodard as "Christian educators" that, unfortunately, arise from certain constituencies and that those such as Mr Woodard seem to me to operate on. God bless him and God bless us all (to quote Dicken's Tiny Tim, cf the end comment on Dickens, just below), I hope we all make it to that other side of the Jordan and into heaven and finally understand for real all the things we presumed we understood down here but really did not, but for here when I see something like Mr Woodard's piece and when I see other connected things like I have been talking about here I feel like I should at least voice the questions.

(Not meaning to sound too lit-geeky here, but I just realized a "coincidental" connection with Rowling and her potter works. Among the class of her fave authors, although probably a little below Austen, is Dickens, and the title of his Great Expectations seems to me to be suprisingly relevant here)

 

Blogger Merlin said ... (May 29, 2007 4:45 AM) : 

Morganna,
Having commented at what I know is considerable length (and I apologize again for the length) on what I consider to be some of the religious issues involved in that part of my response to Woodard, I thought I should add in here that I generally "set the bar" at the BA degree. And I should also explain the nature of that bar briefly (and I do mean briefly her lol)

Some with whom I discuss my ideas of some things in Potter say "yeah, but you're coming up with this stuff as a PhD candidate and she only has a BA, do you really think she has all this stuff going on in her works or are you maybe just reading it in from your level?" Likewise there are those who see the BA as having dropped so drastically in quality that it has basically become only the equivalent of what the highschool diploma used to be and that if you are any type of a thinker at all you have at least an MA. I do see a drop in quality occurring, unfortunately (especially on the sociological and maturity level on American campuses), but I do not agree with these people that these trends have that completely affected the intrinsic level of the nature of a BA nor the possibilities of what a student can make of it if they apply themselves. I think Rowling evidences in her writing that she studied hard and grasped much in her academic degree in classics ad French at Exeter U. I think of the BA setting as one in which a student has access PhD holders as teachers and thus some pretty decent academic resources ... what they choose to do with that is another matter. Like I said, Harold Bloom is way beyond BA level in both learning and prestige and I think he has unfortunately squandered it and become a huge curmudgeonly blowhard. The chair of the English Dept at my undergrad institution has a PhD and I think he is a total quack who has no right being chair of any academic department.

For me the BA as a "bar" is kind of a preliminary thing - "hmmmm, has a BA so at least was in the setting where the resources were at least probably there for getting a decent grasp on these things at a decent level" ... but there is always a little reservation of "yes, they had the opportunity but did they use it well or did they become a blowhard or quack with just enough learning to be dangerous ... the proof will always be in the pudding ... let's see what they write"

 

Blogger Merlin said ... (May 29, 2007 7:04 PM) : 

On the thing with my friend who got out of engagement ... I meant to say that she says she had been doing it ONLY because of the feeling of "well better get on with doing what I'm 'supposed' to be doing.

 

Anonymous Anonymous said ... (May 31, 2007 4:33 PM) : 

Dear Merlin,

Thank you for taking the time to answer my query – I had not checked back for a few days due to a death in my family, and was shocked to find so much information waiting! It took me awhile to read through it all, and I confess I don’t begin to understand all of the terminology, etc. I have spent much time reading the blogs and articles but have failed to respond often because I am frankly out of my league.

Before I try to respond to your generous explanations (all of them! -grin-), I must tell you that I am not an academician, nor do I possess extreme intellect, and my debating skills are practically zero. Having said that, let me jump right in. . .

“In short, I know it might seem combative but I really do believe it ... But that comment in my response above all else was to say "DO NOT try to turn the Faith that is the only thing that really gives me hope into that sort of political garbage. I WILL fight to the death on it. Get off your butt and actually start trying to operate 'above reproach' as much as possible - stop giving the rest of us, especially those of us who started off in small Christian school that, as unfair as the situation/perception/accusation might be, already gives us a handicap in public dialogue, don't give us a further undeserved handicap in cultural dialogue ... stop running your banally ignorant mouth - you're doing no good for anybody or anything except for your own and others neurotically craving self perceptions ... and the rest of us want you to stop using the Faith like that."

I think if you had stopped here I would have understood your original point. It is maddening to have someone who purports having the right to represent me, my thoughts, and my inner being just because we both claim to be Christian. You have pointed the finger directly at the problem in that we need to be less the Pharisee and more the NT believer, who put action to his/her words in spite of the ramifications, calling a spade a spade and challenging the ones (Christian or not) who claimed to have the “whole” knowledge.

“my main thing to say to your sister and brother in law would be ... above all else (well after striving to live in peace and union with God and family) strive not to be a "guru." Strive to be active and when you believe something say it and defend it, and strive to be truly helpful to people who look to you for information and understanding in the field you are in and in other things ... but strive not to become a guru.”

and

“In truth the initial impulse to looking to somebody who is knowledgeable is not a neurotic impulse, it is a healthy and humble admission of places where other people are more knowledgeable etc. But it so easily, so quickly becomes the other thing so often. Sadly, "the world is too much with us" and I am as guilty of that one as any other person.”

My sister and her husband are flawed humans like all of us, but I believe they would embrace what you said in these two statements, because they are constantly thrown together with folks who do think of themselves as ‘gurus’. One of the hardest trying-grounds for a Christian is to be thrown together with other Christians outside the church setting. We put on our faces for church (whether we realize it or not), much like we put on different clothing or a hat or makeup, but we are ‘real’ in the real world – myself included, to my embarrassment. Being not of this world and yet in it generates an ongoing struggle with ourselves as we try to – in this case – seek Godly counsel without brown-nosing or, if we are the ones giving counsel, to give it without puffing ourselves up and giving ourselves more due than is warranted. Call me simple, but I believe God gives us counselors who have gained spiritual wisdom through experience, study of the Word, and gifted spiritual insight. I also believe God throws those of us who are in need of such counsel in the paths of those whom He has gifted. Whether we’re on the giving or the receiving end, it is all a gift from God and there is no reason to either feel superior or inferior. When I see such things going on (yes, in my own church and Christian community), it makes me angry.

“You said your brother-in-law has done several "philosophical dissertations" but has only a BA. “

I meant dissertation in the general sense, as in a formal discourse in speech or writing. John writes and debates primarily in the context of educating Christian school parents, conducting his philosophy class, or debating in secular/Christian forums in two of the local colleges (where there are lots of gurus!).

“So I agree with you and then some ... not only does the degree not make the person as a whole, sometimes it doesn't even make the academic - that chair has a PhD and I would like to slap and go 3 stooges on whoever approved his dissertation and gave him the degree.”

and

“Like I said, Harold Bloom is way beyond BA level in both learning and prestige and I think he has unfortunately squandered it and become a huge curmudgeonly blowhard. The chair of the English Dept at my undergrad institution has a PhD and I think he is a total quack who has no right being chair of any academic department.”

I worked in a college setting for 8 years and it amazed me how cross-grained so many of the brilliant professors and deans were – the really testy ones were those who had the highest opinion of themselves.

“But there is also a fine line of discerning the difference between those levels of issues and the kinds of issues that really should be worked through before entering into marriage, and often times our particular suburban Christian way of approaching the "expectations" of what marriage is and what we are doing in it blur lines that should not be blurred and leaves us distinctly open to certain dangers that hurt us very much when they are actualized (I am not saying the faith itself but the way we weak human beings in a fallen world understand and practice it).”

and

“But I have often wished I could have done more in the situation to help her be understood in a way that might be a basis for the beginning of real dialogue, rather than her simply being pushed through Confirmation because it was what was "expected" of her in the Christian/Catholic Faith, or rather by her parents and that particular parish trying to live up to her parents expectations.”

This brings me back to what I said earlier about seeing things in my own community which are so skewed that I can’t believe our pastors aren’t raving from the pulpit about them. Since when did God encumber us with “expectations”? Since when did God ever force us into making decisions or commitments before we were ready? Since when does someone have the authority to just up and say, “I think things would be better if we change this and alter that,” and people jump to oblige without stepping back and asking why is that necessarily the best course for the church body. To blindly dive in because it’s the “Christian” thing has nothing to do, in my opinion, with seeking God’s face as best we can until we are finally face-to-face with Him.

“That realm of Catholic youth catechesis is very akin to what we have been speaking of in the matter of Christian schools and education ... there are certain expectations that, unfortunately, we often approach in a very un-realistic and un-healthy way. This is where I would class, from my experience, much of the "guru expectations" in regards to those such as Mr Woodard as "Christian educators" that, unfortunately, arise from certain constituencies and that those such as Mr Woodard seem to me to operate on. God bless him and God bless us all (to quote Dicken's Tiny Tim, cf the end comment on Dickens, just below), I hope we all make it to that other side of the Jordan and into heaven and finally understand for real all the things we presumed we understood down here but really did not, but for here when I see something like Mr Woodard's piece and when I see other connected things like I have been talking about here I feel like I should at least voice the questions.”

I’m glad you did!

“For me the BA as a "bar" is kind of a preliminary thing - "hmmmm, has a BA so at least was in the setting where the resources were at least probably there for getting a decent grasp on these things at a decent level" ... but there is always a little reservation of "yes, they had the opportunity but did they use it well or did they become a blowhard or quack with just enough learning to be dangerous ... the proof will always be in the pudding ... let's see what they write.”

Again, having worked at a college for several years, I have seen students who work hard, learn much, apply themselves in all areas of their lives, growing up in ways that are a tribute to them. I have also seen students who get by with as little effort as possible, wasting their time as well as others’. Yet they both get their degrees. The proof, of course, is what they do after they receive their diploma, which serves only as a gateway after all.

Thanks again for taking the time to answer me, Merlin. It is much appreciated.

Morganna

 

Blogger Merlin said ... (June 06, 2007 12:30 AM) : 

Morganna,

You are more than welcome ... I'm just glad my writing style didn't throw you off, sometimes I have difficulty finding good concise ways to communicate what I am trying to say and my writing can come out making even Germans like Kant and Husserl look crystal clear and completely understandable ... and that is pretty hard to do lol.

Also, my condolences on your loss. I lost my father a year and a couple months ago. No matter what the situation, no matter how much it was "expected" - and even with those we are not as close to in our family, but much more-so with those we are very close to - it is never the case that it doesn't hurt.

I thought I would add one more "classification" to the ones I listed in this response and in my original piece, one more classification of argumentation, but as more of a nice low-key closer.

Actually it is the same one I tried to address in the original response to Mr Woodard, the "Ex Homine" argument, but in a positive light of where "Ex Homine" makes sense. One of the places is the one you mentioned just now, with certain people who really do have a gift of not only being smart, but more-over wise. There are those genuine situations where a person is somebody you can and should trust on those levels, although this is usually not only the result of learning but also of habituation in humility and wisdom on their part.

Another, in the academic realm, would be what John Henry Cardinal Newman called the "Illative sense" ... a sense an expert has on the "feel" of certain things and matters even when they cannot offer direct evidence. A commonly used example is a person who has spent 30 some years reading texts from a certain period, and bringing them a old book containing manuscript supposedly, or thought to be, from specific a period in which the person is well versed. The person may look read the text and, based in content and language (rather than merely scientific dating of the physical material of the manuscript itself) say "I don't think it is from that period." If you ask such a person to validate their opinion through argumentation on specific elements within the text they may not be able, right off the bat at least, to do so, but this does not mean the person's opinion should not be taken as very weighty consideration and evidence. A person who has spent a long time immersed in such texts gets a feel for the language of the period, a certain feel in genuine texts of that setting. It is very akin to the "feel" that athletes get for their sports and the physical objects and parameters of those sports. It is akin to what Pauli an I, like other rock/jazz/funk musicians (when we were in a band together in the early 90s), called "being in the pocket" ... when musicians get in the same groove together, are really tight together on rhythm and dynamics of the music, when they are really together and are able to then start playing off of each other more, almost a communication in playing the music together. A person can get a feel like this for style and content in a text, a feel they might even have difficulty explaining the way an athlete has trouble describing what it means to be "in the zone" or a musician has describing being "in the pocket." In cases like this, when a person has built up that type of acumen, an "Ex Homine" argument is more appropriate based in their feel for such things. Their word can still be questioned if one has definitive arguments in the opposite direction and they are good arguments and phrased well and respectfully, but going into that their word still carries a greater amount of weight ... you really need to argue your contention solidly in such a situation, out of respect for the amount of themselves they have put into developing that feel (and i don't think it is really possible to develop such an illative sense without investing yourself in the endeavor over many years), which is the basis for the respect of their opinion and "gut impression" (including that they probably attain a certain level of honesty in allowing themselves to really hear their gut impressions, rather than encumbering them from the outset with polemics)

 

Anonymous Anonymous said ... (June 07, 2007 3:46 PM) : 

I think I understand what you mean, Merlin. Sort of like when Ron comments about (BC) Moody having 'been there', demonstrating his respect for the auror. I'm grateful for the condolences, too.

 

Blogger Merlin said ... (June 10, 2007 5:50 AM) : 

Morganna, I think it was Fred and George, or Lee Jordan, who said that in telling Ron and Harry about their first class with Moody, several days before they had their own actual first class with him. I might be wrong on that though, but I think that is it ... I know I just heard whichever it is recently in listening to GOF (I suppose there could be differences in versions, since the files I am listening to of GOF are from the Stephen Fry reading of the Bloomsbury edition, but I don't think that was one of the differences in editions, but who knows ... and I could just be entirely remembering it inaccurately, wouldn't be a first :) )

But yes, (whichever Weasley or Jordan said it) that is very much the jist of it, and with a very aptly chosen HP example.

 

Blogger MaryT said ... (September 09, 2011 3:06 PM) : 

I do not know whether this site is still active, but I thought I would post a comment. I came across this post, while searching for Dr. Woodard's article, so that I could send it to a friend. That's right - Dr (I should know, I am his daughter). The man has two Masters Degrees, and one PhD; degrees seem rather important to the writer of this rather lengthy, and rather badly spelled blogpost.

Therefore, this statement:
"I therefore feel qualified to state that I find that Mr. Woodard's presentation of the issues reveals, at best, a sophomoric grasp of the philosophical movement from the modern era of philosophy to the "post-modern" and events such as the "linguistic turn" and subjectivist epistemology." does not quite seem applicable to a man who studied Philosophy, Theology, and Political Theory at some of the most highly acclaimed institutions in the United States. Just sayin ;)

 

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