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Hogwarts, Hogwarts,
Hoggy Warty Hogwarts,
Teach us something please,
Whether we be old and bald,
Or young with scabby knees,
Our heads could do with filling,
With some interesting stuff,
For now they're bare
And full of air,
Dead flies and bits of fluff.
So teach us stuff worth knowing,
Bring back what we forgot,
Just do your best
We'll do the rest,
And learn until our brains all rot!



1: The heavens declare the glory of God; and the firmament sheweth his handywork.
2: Day unto day uttereth speech, and night unto night sheweth knowledge.
3: There is no speech nor language, where their voice is not heard.
4: Their line is gone out through all the earth, and their words to the end of the world. In them hath he set a tabernacle for the sun,
5: Which is as a bridegroom coming out of his chamber, and rejoiceth as a strong man to run a race.
6: His going forth is from the end of the heaven, and his circuit unto the ends of it: and there is nothing hid from the heat thereof.
7: The law of the LORD is perfect, converting the soul: the testimony of the LORD is sure, making wise the simple.
8: The statutes of the LORD are right, rejoicing the heart: the commandment of the LORD is pure, enlightening the eyes.
9: The fear of the LORD is clean, enduring for ever: the judgments of the LORD are true and righteous altogether.
10: More to be desired are they than gold, yea, than much fine gold: sweeter also than honey and the honeycomb.
11: Moreover by them is thy servant warned: and in keeping of them there is great reward.
12: Who can understand his errors? cleanse thou me from secret faults.
13: Keep back thy servant also from presumptuous sins; let them not have dominion over me: then shall I be upright, and I shall be innocent from the great transgression.
14: Let the words of my mouth, and the meditation of my heart, be acceptable in thy sight, O LORD, my strength, and my redeemer.

Thursday, March 09, 2006

It's All Right, Ma, I'm Only Bleeding

So don't fear, If you hear
A foreign sound, To your ear
It's all right, Ma, I'm only sighing
-Bob Dylan

Well, in finishing book 5 I came across a passage that I think is central to Rowling's themes in the series and has focused me again on the meaning of Sectum Sempra in the specific nuance the "ever bleeding" effect on Malfoy has for the broader "meaning" of it (and, as you'll notice, I've been listening to Dylan while working and noticing similar themes). We have kind of batted this one around before and gained some valuable insight into the fact that it is important to keep clear that the immediate meaning of "ever-cut" has broader applications than just that of human blood, applications that may come into play in revelations about how Horcruxes are made and unmade. The incident towards the end of book 5, however, leads me to believe that Rowling has consciously in mind a two-leveled meaning to the image, with the "ever-bleeding" having a distinct place as a unique focused application.

The Dementors

In order to understand this incident it is necessary to examine the context. It comes at the end of book 5, and that book is the culmination of what I will call "the dementor sequence" that is the central chiasm within the larger 7 series chiasm. We do indeed hear of dementors in book 6 and I suspect we will hear some in book 7, but so far the chiasm in which we have seen the Dementors specifically active is that of books 3,4,5. In 3 they are introduced and try to kiss a wizard (Sirius); in book 5 they try to kiss a muggle (Dudley); and in the center, in book 4, they succeed in a kiss (Barty Jr).

This pain is a fate worse than death. In fact this kind of pain brings a longing for death; it can bring those thoughts of the suicide that are the ultimate despair. To be robbed of the soul is to be no longer human, and in the same way being robbed of a loved one violently can feel un-human, in a way that tempts one to invite the wish to be simply no longer a living human, rather than alive but not human ... it can lead one to scream:
"THEN - I - DON'T - WANT - TO - BE - HUMAN! ... I'VE HAD ENOUGH ... I WANT OUT, I WANT IT TO END, I DON"T CARE ANYMORE!" (OotP 824)


The Blood

As you can guess by now, I see the thought on despair and suicide especially present in a blood image. There is a very high concentration of blood imagery in the climactic scenes of book 5: I will have another post on the connection between Grawp's blood and the image of "riding death" as a symbol of accepting mortality (rather than making a "flight from death," a Voldemort), but there is also Neville's sacrifice in heroic action. With his nose broken from a brutal kick by Dulahov, blood freely pouring from it all over him - covered in his own blood and under the real threat of the Imperius curse from the same hands that bled his parents sanity away with it - he implores Harry not to relinquish the prophecy. There is also the high concentration of blood language in Dumbledore's explanation of how he protected Harry ... through his mother's blood (OotP 836). All of these various types of blood imagery flow into one (both literally and figuratively).

But as regards despair specifically, and suicide as a temptation particular to despair, Dumbledore's portrayal of Harry's state provides too concise a possible foreshadowing of the specific application of Sectum Sempra and "ever-bleeding" (the effect on Malfoy in book 6) as a unique and important application of the broader "ever-cut"/"ever-separated" meaning. When Harry vents his anger in saying, "I don't care!", what does Dumbledore reply? "You do care ... You care so much you feel as though you will bleed to death with the pain of it."

This is the effects of the Cruciatus curse and pain, this is the effects of the dementors and despair:

"Pointed threats, they bluff with scorn
Suicide remarks are torn
From the fool's gold mouthpiece the hollow horn
Plays wasted words, proves to warn
That he not busy being born is busy dying
"

Love

That is why Love is so important ... the door that cannot be forced opened as a knife-blade opens a wound ("the handmade blade," to borrow from Dylan even further), but rather it must come from that which is freely given ... and as with all of the deepest, most powerful and most healing things, it is properly a mystery - you cannot "understand" Love, you can only give and receive it.

Harry had spoken of his own death earlier in tones of despair that same night, when "They were fused together, bound by pain, and there was no escape." And then he thought that at least if Voldemort got Dumbledore to kill him it would at least mean he would see Sirius again, and Voldy could no longer possess a person with that kind of love in them (OotP 816) ... the kind of love that is willing to risk "bleeding to death" for the sake of loving the other.
posted by Merlin at 11:44 PM


Comments on "It's All Right, Ma, I'm Only Bleeding"

 

Blogger jkr2 said ... (March 10, 2006 5:26 AM) : 

aaahhh.. after the famine, a feast!

do you think the sectum sempra curse is going to be used in the downfall of lordy voldy?
he is already so separated from himself, perhaps it's not a big step once the horcruxes (what is the plural for that btw?) are dealt with.
and the statement 'for enemies' always seemed to stick out to me..

jo

 

Blogger Pauli said ... (March 10, 2006 8:46 AM) : 

Wow, listened to "Bringing it all back home" on the way to work. I opened up my email and "this foot came through the line." What next? I'm thinking maybe a Guernsey cow in the parking lot. Maybe Harry will be "bringing it all back home" in book 7 when he goes to Godric's hollow and this Dylan album is the key - kind of like a Dark Side of the Moon / Wizard of Oz connection thing.

 

Blogger Merlin said ... (March 10, 2006 10:25 AM) : 

JKR2
Well, I think the SS spell will have something to do in the end with Voldy's un-doing. I like RH's theory that on the night in Godric's Hollow Voldy did not just accidentally make another Horcrux in the scar but that it was the whole of his remaining soul and that the ego and id in the body is basically like THE major heresy/confusion of the Patristic era and the Modern era/Enlightenment - Appolonarius taught that Christ had no human soul, just the Logos and the flesh, and Descarte's dualism yielded a concept of the spirit in the body as a "ghost in the machine" (Pauli has a post in draft called "Ghostly hints" - very insightful title), spirit and body but missing the crucial link of the soul, the Golden Soul that is the aim of alchemy. I think that maybe Harry will use SS on voldy and snape will make an ultimate sacrifice of allowing Voldy's body to expire (as I said, I think Snape will have been put under a UVB by voldy with specific wording, not just not to kill him, but not to let him die, which covers more ground, thus Severus will give his life but die like the good thief on the cross) in an act that is really giving back the only soul it has, the one it has "on loan" - Harry's, in having Harry's blood in his veins.

You see, this thing of the SS spell being used in conjunction with "allowing somebody to die" also answers another dilemna for Harry ... as he thinks in the end of book 5 that he MUST be either victim or MURDERER. Harry need to neither - if RH is right that he must find a way to release the final bit of Voldy's soul, not from the body but from his scar, and allow it to go through the veil ... he is really not killing Voldy as much as he is allowing Voldy's already accomplished suicide to be what it really is. Voldy already committed the suicide when he tried to kill Harry, he finally severed his own soul from his body ... Harry would just be allowing that choice of Voldy's to take its natural course. This is another reason I think that snape is good and that Dumbledore was already all but dead and only being kept alive by a death stopper ... Snape did not Kill him, he only let him die and impending inevitable death, but do it in the way most advantageous to helping Harry along the path to undoing Voldy.

Pauli, I love the connection with the album title - I think book 7 will be structured around several "homecoming" scenes and locales that all funnel to the climax at the archway in the DOM. I think key things will happen at all of Harry's "homes": Godric's Hollow, #4 Privet Drive, #12 Grimmauld Place and Hogwarts (and possibly the Burrow)

i still have yet to try the oz-floyd thing but I hear it's pretty trippy LOL

 

Blogger Merlin said ... (March 10, 2006 11:42 AM) : 

And Jo,
I am gald you saw it as a feast because food, the meal and the feast are all one central image for Rowling (as they are for Christianity, Christ being the bridegroom at the wedding feast of the Lamb). I took a trip yesterday down to my legal address to settle out my taxes for 2005 (a VERY productive trip which wound up in a tripling of my refund, thanks be to God) and while driving listened to the first half of book 1 on tape. The opening feast after the sorting is very important (mine and Pauli's friend Nate and I were discussing this after I got back): after 11 years of famine at the Dursley's and being impacted by Aunt Petunia's anemic behavour and Dudley's gluttony, while going on very sparse rations himself - Harry gets to enjoy the wonder of magical sweets with a new found kindred spirit (Ron) and then a joyful and healthy feast - I love the line that he walks up to Griffyndor tower with is legs again feeling ledden, but not now from nervousness about the mysterious upcoming sorting but from a good healthy dose of truly good food.

Pauli,
the more I think about it (and, as is "my idiom" [for the self-deprecating humor of this cf John Cleese's use of the term as Lancelot in Python's Holy Grail], I was thinking about it in the shower ... a very productive place, like the "eureka" after the bath that saved what's-his-guts' life by being able to discern gold through measuring density through weight and volume via water-displacement) The more I think the image of "home" is so central.

I have already been working on thoughts from the development of the ministry of magig in book 5 that Rowling has a central tension between the political institution and the pedagogical institution (ped = child, gog = leading, hence the institution focussed in the leading and forming of the young ... Hogwarts). To be sure, the political institution is necessary, but what goes on at the pedagogical is much more core. This is where DD's wisdom shines through: in listening to book 1 I noticed that Hagrid tells Harry that everyone wanted DD to be minister of magic, but he chose rather to stay at the place where the CORE formation of life goes on.
-"It's all right, Ma, It's life and life only."

In regards to DD's consistent rebuttle of the "flight from death" (Voldemort), that there are worse things than dying, I have thought that the Dylan song might be appropriate words from Christ on the Cross to Mary at the foot of the Cross,
"It's all right, Ma, I'm only dying."

Oh yeah, almost forgot one thing on blood ... on DD's chocolate frog card one of the things he is noted for is discovering the 12 uses of dragon's blood ... with a central character having a "Draconian" name (IE Draco Malfoy) that's got to be important.

 

Blogger Pauli said ... (March 10, 2006 12:10 PM) : 

Archimedes.

Hmmmm... Slughorn mentions dragon's blood - he used it in his "mess" at the beginning of half-blood prince. Hey - doesn't drinking dragon's blood allow someone to understand the speech of birds & beasts? I think I read about that in David Day's book. It's in the Nibelungenleid or maybe the Völsunga saga....

 

Blogger jkr2 said ... (March 10, 2006 5:36 PM) : 

hey merlin. i love the tradition from english literature of spending a lot of time describing food. lol.
(the famous 5 were always talking about 'lashings of butter' etc and there are many references in the narnian chronichles that i love.) and yes after the previous 10 years of deprivation for harry to even be able to choose for himself what to put on the plate must be pretty liberating and amazing!

re the harry as horcrux thing, i am a little confused. are you saying that harry has the central part of v's soul and v ended up with the fragment? i can't quite see how that would work....

cool idea about the 'homes' theme.
oh, baby crying. ttyl
jo

 

Blogger Merlin said ... (March 10, 2006 9:43 PM) : 

Jo,
well, as I understand RH's theory (and side with it) Voldy actually has NONE of the original Tom Riddle Soul ... all of it went into Harry's scar that night and so in effect he committed suicide by separating his body and soul, the original definition of death. In the Potterverse though, it seems that death also might involve the soul passing through the veil, and hence ghosts such as Nick might be ones who are souls separated from their bodies but not going on beyond the veil. On these theories the way that creating Horcruxes "protects" against death is that if there is a piece of the soul left then the person cannot die because not all of the soul has gone beyond the veil, and thus the ego is left free to seek out one of its Horcruxes in order to use the soul to unite it to a body (on my picking up of RH's theory).

What voldy/vapormort was then, before his return in book 4 was an ego and a will but not a soul ... and I think that possibly the Philosophers stone would have been able to be used to create a perversion facsimile of a soul, since it is the outcome of alchemy and alchemy is concerned with the soul. But without that he must live through the souls and bodies of others (including animal souls), until he is able to make a facimile of a body by using the original source of his original flesh (bone of the father), the yielded will of a servant in the form of the servants flesh ... and bit of Harry's soul in the form of his blood - that's where he gets his "makeshift" soul for his "new body", and Harry's soul of course has a unique connection to Riddles through the scar-crux.

But the theory is that as Vapormort he has no soul left, it all went out of his body that night, and the only thing that kept him from dying completely was the fact that there were still bits of the soul in the Horcruxes and thus that enabled his ego/memoria to remain, to wander, to syphon off of beings with souls in order to work through their bodies (possession).

At least that is rougly the theory.

 

Blogger jkr2 said ... (March 10, 2006 11:03 PM) : 

wow the mental gymnastics i would have to do to 'get' that is a little overwhelming. i think i see will and 'id' as being part of soul, so i can't really comprehend *how* mouldy voldy would continue to exist in any form really without ANY soul.....

fascinating though.

jo

 

Blogger Merlin said ... (March 11, 2006 12:36 AM) : 

I think Rowling is possibly familiar with Medeival "psychology." Her main background seems to be mainly literature, as opposed to philosophy, but for that era the two run together as thick as theives often.

Medeival "psychology" speaks of 3 levels of psyche, or soul. This falls under the definition of "soul" as the animating life force of a body, and similarly to the lines of Aristotle's definition of the soul as "the form of the body" (that which gives it definition and telos/goal). The 3 types of souls are vegetative, sensate (as in non-human animals) and rational. It is really only the last that has the capability of self-reflexive

I guess the whole upshot of all that for what I am thinking of is that because Voldy had "taken precautions" in splitting his animating life force into Horcruxes, his ego was able to survive in some sort of substantial form after the animation had left his body, but without a soul this ego could not rule a body in the way necessary to continue his reign of terror. Along the way back to power he utilizes different souls to control different kinds of bodies (such as snakes and other animals), but finally he must possess an being with a rational soul (a human - Quirrel) if he is to make any real progress, but in the end he must have a soul power dedicated solely to his use - ie not shared with another ego.

The one big question for this theory is the "baby-mort" body ... if he did not have control of a soul controlled solely by him how does he work this body. One possibility is that this consideration shoots the whole theory down (which is entirely possible) - and the other is that this will be explained more fully in book 7 - one possibility along these lines would be that he has somehow found a way to sliver off a part of the Naginni's (the snake) soul and use it in this baby body, which would be why he continually has to have the snake milked and feed on the venom, and maybe the snake is addicted to killing higher life forms (humans) because this is how he found it possible to sectum the snake's life force (by having her kill a person). several different possibilities exist here (one is an irony in which DD thought the snake was a Horcrux but really it was the other way round, and Voldy has become un-human because he has become part beast by this move) ... but the theory gets muddy precisely because the options bleed into each other sloppily, and thus it would need to be worked out better before I could even describe more without getting kind of jibberishy (I know, I know ... I may be being overly optimistic in thinking I have not already gotten jibberishy :) )... but I do think something along these lines is a possibility ... I'll just have to learn patience and wait for book 7 to see if what Rowling has happen fits such a theory :)

 

Blogger jkr2 said ... (March 12, 2006 5:46 AM) : 

yes, there are some things that can be theorized over and over, but there's no way of knowing until you know!

i'm just finishing no. 5 again. (just got a letter about it - darn library need it back! who do they think they are!).
i'm starting to think that dumbledore has given some clues that harry has had a part of voldy's soul in him. he as much as said it. also in one of the earlier books he says 'left a part of himself' or words to that effect, so all my original hunches are out the window and my thoughts are everywhere now.

roll on book 7.

jo

 

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