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Hogwarts, Hogwarts,
Hoggy Warty Hogwarts,
Teach us something please,
Whether we be old and bald,
Or young with scabby knees,
Our heads could do with filling,
With some interesting stuff,
For now they're bare
And full of air,
Dead flies and bits of fluff.
So teach us stuff worth knowing,
Bring back what we forgot,
Just do your best
We'll do the rest,
And learn until our brains all rot!



1: The heavens declare the glory of God; and the firmament sheweth his handywork.
2: Day unto day uttereth speech, and night unto night sheweth knowledge.
3: There is no speech nor language, where their voice is not heard.
4: Their line is gone out through all the earth, and their words to the end of the world. In them hath he set a tabernacle for the sun,
5: Which is as a bridegroom coming out of his chamber, and rejoiceth as a strong man to run a race.
6: His going forth is from the end of the heaven, and his circuit unto the ends of it: and there is nothing hid from the heat thereof.
7: The law of the LORD is perfect, converting the soul: the testimony of the LORD is sure, making wise the simple.
8: The statutes of the LORD are right, rejoicing the heart: the commandment of the LORD is pure, enlightening the eyes.
9: The fear of the LORD is clean, enduring for ever: the judgments of the LORD are true and righteous altogether.
10: More to be desired are they than gold, yea, than much fine gold: sweeter also than honey and the honeycomb.
11: Moreover by them is thy servant warned: and in keeping of them there is great reward.
12: Who can understand his errors? cleanse thou me from secret faults.
13: Keep back thy servant also from presumptuous sins; let them not have dominion over me: then shall I be upright, and I shall be innocent from the great transgression.
14: Let the words of my mouth, and the meditation of my heart, be acceptable in thy sight, O LORD, my strength, and my redeemer.

Friday, October 13, 2006

Biblical Chiasm

I should start off by noting the long break between my last post and this one. Things are busy and hectic and stressful and all the things that attend trying to do a PhD program here in the Bronx, and so I am not going to be so nearly a regular writer on here, mainly because of time restraints and responsibilities ... not to mention that until book 7 comes out we get further afield with some writing ... although I am sure there is still plenty of good stuff in the 6 books so far to be discussed - it is mainly that I must spend most of my time reading from right to left rather than vice-versa ... Ie studying Hebrew.

But I did have an idea today for something on here, but it is not directly on the HP works, but rather just a little fun giving an example from the Old Testament of the literary device I have talked about on here of the chiasm (see link on left side bar), sort of just to kind of fill in more of a picture for those who find such things interesting. Actually I also sort of got a view on this one, today in Hebrew prose class, of another facet that you sometimes find in chiastic structurings.

To recap what I have discussed before on it, a chiasm is a literary structure that can be found in prose, narrative, poetry etc. It takes its name from the Greek letter chi, which is roughly equivalent to the English x, the left half of which functions as a sort of visual representation of the movement in a chiasm, with the movement going down the top leg, into the cruxt, and back out along the lower leg. The two legs are composed of matching elements (A-A1, B-B1, C-C1 etc)and there may be any number of them (for one course in Genesis 1 through 11 the professor had us look at a HUGE, many paired chiasm that Gordham Wenham suggested as the structure of the whole flood narrative) and the cruxt can be one of two things. In a chiasm with an odd number of elements it will be the center element, and in a chiasm of even number elements it will be the common connection/commonality between the two inner most elements. Not only are all of the corresponding elements paired but there is a development between the first and second elements of a particular pair (ie there is correspondence, for example, between A and A1, but A1 is a development of the element in A), and the development is by way of the cruxt or center of the chiasm.

So, a five part chiasm (as I will describe "Judah's Song" below, looks something like this:
A
...B
......C
...B1
A1

Harry Potter

As I have talked about, I believe the Harry Potter series to be a 7 part chiasm with book # 4, so I'll just recap there as an example. Book 4 is the center, so one of the keys to getting the meaning in Rowling's work is finding the element in the corresponding pairs, for example the introduction of the dementors in book 3 and Umbridge sending one after Harry in book 5, should can be understood by finding the same element in book 4 and testing out how X1 is a development of X by way of what is found in the cruxt. So (and here is a little defense of the PoMo position), to use our example of the dementors in books 3 and 5 ... where do we see the dementor in book 4? Actually in book 4 we get the fullest objective experience of a dementor, we have a dementor actually perform the kiss. On who? On the son of a ministry official who advocates the wizarding world's use of dementors as guardians. But the dementor's kiss is just the culmination ... Barty senior set that path in motion by paying more attention to his ministry career than to his son, long before Barty Jr ever became a death eater.

Barty Jr. may be culpable for his choices to join Voldy, but Barty Sr. is no innocent man either. but for the point of chiasm, look at the common element in all 3 books: not just the dementors but the issue of the dementors in relationship to guilt. In book 3 we have the dementors introduced at the school because of an innocent man who is assumed guilty of being a Death Eater and killing. I personally have my doubts about Barty Jr's full culpability (due to factors of childhood psychology of how Barty Sr. raised him) but for here the important fact is that in book 4, Barty Jr. actually was a Death Eater and not simply presumed to be one, and he actually did kill his father, not just get framed by Peter Pettigrew like Sirius did. Finally in book 5 we have an innocent who committed no crime excpet being inconvenient to the ministry ... for which toad-woman sets not just one but two dementors on him. The progression is from an innocent presumed guilty in book 3 to a person who is not even presumed guilty of a serious crime in book 5 (simply "politically" inconvenient). This is the progression, but how is it arrived at by way of book 4 ... ask Dumbledore, he has known all along that it is a crock to be allying yourself with dementors, even against the guilty such as the death eaters, or allowing the kiss even for death eaters and murderers. That is how it all began and that is what yields the progression from employing dementors against the guilty (whether or not they should have been fooled by a ruse by the likes of Wormtail concerning Sirius is another story ... but we can give them the benefit of the doubt for our purposes here) to using them as weapons against the innocent. In short, in this particular chiastic pairing we learn that Barty Sr really was the one who begot Dolores Umbridge.

Judah's Song and another element in chiasm

"We said to my lord, 'We have an old father and a little child of his old age. Now his brother is dead, so he alone is left of his mother, and his father loves him."

-Genesis 44:20 ("Judah's Song")

Anyway, today I saw a chiasm in Genesis 44:20 ("Judah's Song"), and asked the professor if she thought it might be chiastic. She said she hadn't looked at it that way but, yes, seeing the chiasm in . What I noticed was that in the Hebrew there are also pairings within the separate legs that kind of differentiate the legs (the top leg and bottom leg) from each other. So, in this particular chiasm you have Judah beginning his answer with the father (Jacob - [A]) moving to the remaining son (Benjamin - [B]). The cruxt (C) is the non-remaining son (the "cover story" that Joseph was eaten by a wild animal) which begins the explanation of the unique situation described in the return leg of the chiasm, that Benjamin is the only son remaining to Rachel (B1) and the strong attachment that Jacob has for Benjamin (A1).

What I noticed is that there is a commonality among the markers within each leg that differentiate the legs. So, the first leg (A and B) are marked by age description, "old man" and "young" brother. the second leg (B1 and A1) are marked by an almost sing-songy use of the 3rd masculine singular pronomial suffix, which sounds like a long "0" and means "his" (so adding it turns the word "horse" into "his horse" ... there are pronomial suffixes for 2 and 3rd person masculine singular, 1 person common [same form for both suffixes] and different ways they attach to singular nouns vs plural nouns ... and then they also get used as direct object suffixes when attached to verbs and different connecting letters pop up ... actually when you get into it Hebrew is a really cool language, but I know I may be marking myself as a nerd).

Anyway, it was just sort of a new discovery for me to find a chiasm in which there were also distinctive markers or characteristics in the legs as wholes (not just the individual elements).

Meaning

The reason I asked the professor if she thought it to be chiastic is because chiasm is very structured thing ... but she had been talking about how rushed and hurried and nervous and "not put together" Judah's song seems, which is how the author is painting him now that he is in this situation where they need food, Joseph, who Judah (who maybe tried but was impotent in helping Joseph earlier when he was sold into slavery in Egypt in the first place) thinks to be just a harsh Egyptian ruler, has their backs up against the wall: they need bread and this guys is pushing them with questions about their father and brother and demanding that the younger brother be brought down if they are to be able to buy any food, and Judah finally convinces Jacob to let Benjamin go down to Egypt with him and then Joseph pulls the thing of putting the cup in the grain sack and has them arrested and is going to keep Benjamin as a slave for it and Judah is really up against it and so he basically does what he should have done all the way back in chapter and offers to stand himself in place of the younger son, in this case by suffering what happened to Joseph originally, being taken into slavery in Egypt. So he is finally really doing the right thing (rather than trying to settle for pulling a fast one on the other brothers, like in 37) ... but the guy is understandably very harried (How is that for an HP pun?)

I think the narrator is doing "both ... and." There is this really hectic, worried, "come-undone" quality to Judah's speech, and at the same time there is the structure of the chiasm, that is ordered. I think it is delivered in a highly ordered chiasm because that is the message: the order implies meaning and getting to the real cruxt of the issue ... and Judah has to be pushed to this place where his back is totally slammed to the wall, and he is frantic and desperate (as evidenced in the rapid and sometimes overly repetitive quality in his speech), and he has to choose between being a life-long slave himself in Egypt or "sending his father's hoary head down to sheol in misery" by allowing Benjamin, and this time round he does the right thing by being willing to sacrifice himself in the stead of a the younger brother (Benjamin - but in a nice little twist, he also would be willing submitting himself to the same fate as the first younger brother, Joseph, by abandoned to slavery in Egypt) ... and this is what finally completely undoes Joseph and brings him to tears.

Post-Script
Anyway, like I said, I personally will only be able to write on here very limitedly for the indefinite future, but I just thought I would share that one since it was from my studies and we have talked a decent bit on here about chiastic structure.

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posted by Merlin at 6:20 PM


Comments on "Biblical Chiasm"

 

Blogger Pauli said ... (October 16, 2006 3:31 PM) : 

Merlin, thanks for the post. I was planning on posting here to explain the lack of posting, but you made that unnecessary.

This chiasm stuff might fly over a newcomer's head, so I recommend, as you did, they check out this post. There's also a good wikipedia article on it here.

Here's a really interesting chiastic analysis of the Genesis flood narrative by an Orthodox Jewish Rabbi.

 

Blogger Sumara said ... (October 16, 2006 8:12 PM) : 

I enjoyed this Merlin.

I'm really getting back into poetry lately (I was reading Gerard Manley Hopkins out loud to my kids today. :) ). I like the chiasm stuff.

I've finished all 6 books now, by the way. Loooooved Half-Blood Prince and had the hugest cry at the end. :)

 

Blogger Merlin said ... (October 16, 2006 11:13 PM) : 

I haven't read GMH in ages, I think the main thing I had to read was "God's Grandeur" and I don't reemember much but I do remember the term "srpung verse"

I was looking in back over the original chiasm post I did that Pauli linked too, and the idea of the whole "linear" thing was striking me. Jewish thinking is very different from our way of thinking of "linear" but Biblical Hebrew is also, as far as I know, radically the language most "geared toward" narrative, I mean, it seems like even the way the grammar is is effected by it ... not just that it . What I was actually thinking of was Aristotle's Poetics and his whole thing of good plot(mythos) having distinct beginning middles and end and Ted and Terry commentary on PotC Black Pearl commentary talking about "the end of the second act" and "three acts" being just a fancy way of saying "beginning, middle and end" and thinking that under the enlightenment especially our concept of "beginning middle and end" became very flatly horizontal, and it may be the case taht before that in overly-hellenized thinking the concept became overly vertical ... with the commonality that either way, somtimes you got too much of this straight line thing. In reality I think beginning middle and end are baisically A, Cruxt, A1 and everything alse sort of falls into that ... they're still linearly beginning middle and end, but not just that.
just a thought off they top of my head

 

Blogger Merlin said ... (October 16, 2006 11:14 PM) : 

on HBP ... I know, it's hard to say goodbye to the man

 

Blogger Sumara said ... (October 19, 2006 7:43 AM) : 

Yes, I think all good stories have up-and-down motion as well as forward, horizontal motion, don't they.

I hadn't read GMH for years either, I studied him in high school actually and I liked it then but only as much as studying something for an exam allows you to like it. I'm really enjoying reading him now and having whatever response I have (as opposed to the "correct" response for school).
God's Gandeur was one we studied too, and it's one of my favourites... "...there lives the dearest freshness deep down things..."
aah. :)

Dumbledore is indeed difficult to say goodbye to. :( I'm anxious to find out what a story without him will feel like (though of course it won't be entirely without him, as I've no doubt he will live on in Harry's heart and continue helping him in different ways).

 

Blogger Sumara said ... (October 20, 2006 6:27 PM) : 

Hey Merlin, (or anyone else who'd like to answer...)

How is your chiasm-thinking affecting your theories/predictions for Book 7? What do you see in #1 that might be reflected in Book 7?

I read elsewhere a suggestion that there may be something to do with Chess, and Ron sacrificing himself (ie in PS Ron was willing to sacrifice himself in the big chess game... will Ron be the sacrificial one again?), but I don't know how informed that opinion was.

For me the big theme of Philosopher's Stone was Harry's discovering of himself... no longer having to be content with the miserable life as a Dursely, but becoming who he was really destined to be.

That's something that could definitely be relevant to #7, with Harry leaving behind everything he now knows as home and following a destiny of sorts.

Thoughts anyone?

 

Blogger Pauli said ... (October 22, 2006 1:36 PM) : 

Great question, Sumara. The chess game was always interesting to me because it shows that Ron really is good at something even though he doesn't have a lot of self-esteem about school success, etc. And he's hit or miss at Quidditch, too. Chess involves "seeing ahead" to anticipate moves and Hermione seems to lack in that regard in even some of her brainiest moments.

 

Blogger Sumara said ... (October 22, 2006 6:26 PM) : 

Yes, good point, and she refuses to believe in astrology/crystal ball predictions etc (can't remember the name of that subject she drops out of with the loopy professor...).

Hermione's talent lies in interpreting the past/already-known facts, Ron's good at the forward-knowledge stuff like Chess, and Harry's just pretty good at thinking on his feet, in the moment. So they work well. :)

 

Blogger Merlin said ... (October 24, 2006 12:06 PM) : 

Ahhh, y'all are almost there, but I suspect Sumara is actually closer ... Past present and futrure are all the same, just different aspects ... Hermione distrusts the crystal ball because it is a lot like Alchemy for the sake of turning base lead into base gold for base profit, remember that Trelawney has only 2 valid "prophecies" and neither of them made consciously at all ... on the other hand, the things she practices do have some objective quality to them, thay are magic when practiced by somebody who is objectively magical ... I would say that in HBP the fact that she keeps turning up the lightning struck tower card is more than mere chance, ie it is magic. The best formulation I have heard is "prophecy is not about fore-telling, it's about forth-telling" - not about "seeing the future" but about understanding the past, and therefore the core reality of what is really going on in present situations and thus being able to see the logic of where "that sort of thing" ends up.

I guess I think of futural and past orientations a lot more closely ... I would say that with both Ron and Hermione they see the logic, only Hermione sees it statically and Ron sees it in motion (like the whole "man in motion" thing in American football) ... chess has never seemed to me to be so much about "thinking ahead," at least in our Newtonian/Cartesian way of thinking about it, as it is about seeing the way any single move is connected to the possibilities for the other pieces and there is a certain thing to being able to envision that "in motion" - to be able to see the dance itself ... there is a unique strength to the way Hermione sees things to, which is kind of a bit more static, but at the same time deeper.

Hermione can see the fullness of the logic, Ron has the ability to see how it all works "in motion" ... but Harry IS the game, or the dance or whatever you want to put in that blank.

If you want to think of it in musical terms, Hermione understands the melody from the side of the incredible depth of the Hamrony and inter-relation of notes, from the side or the mind, - Ron understands it from the side of rhythm and motion, from the side of the body ... but Harry IS the melody itself, the soul.

That's my take on it anyways,

 

Blogger Merlin said ... (October 24, 2006 12:22 PM) : 

Oh yeah, I was going to add ... how Ron and Hermion work together can, I think, expressed time-wise as you did more succinctly Sumara, but Time is every bit as big of a mystery as Eternity ... I would say the mystery of how Ron and Hermione work together through Harry as a bridge, in terms of time language, is a bit like the mystery that we understand the past, or we learn, only through the furtural expectations we had going into any particular experience (I did this or that because I expected it to accomplish this or that end, I expected the experience to be this way or that way ... it was when I went through the experience and learned whether or not this or that action actually did yield this or that result that I learned) and the fact that, where do we get our expectations of the future from? Has to be the past and then it is which came first? the chicken or the egg ... and the answer really is mystery, and it's pretty much the mystery of familial life ... mystically passed on in common life in the home.

 

Blogger Sumara said ... (October 26, 2006 1:45 AM) : 

Ah Merlin, you keep reminding me of stuff from years ago in bible studies at college... the forth-telling thing I remember being a big deal to me, I loved the concept.

I love your musical and "bridge" images. :)

 

Blogger Merlin said ... (October 26, 2006 11:59 AM) : 

Sumara,
I thought you would like the musical imagery ... for the same reasons I do. My father was not necessarily the most technical of musicians (although he knew a heck of lot more than I do about theory) but he was what I would have called a a "country mystic" in the way I have talked about Johnny Cash being a country mystic on here a long ways back ... and it was from him (actually reported of him by others, I wasn't there when he actually said it) that I heard what I thought to be one of the most mystical things I have ever heard about music. He was very into Southern Gospel Harmony, and he once said, " I think rhythm appeals to the body, harmony to the mind, and melody to the soul ... and I really love harmony" and it started me thinking more on that, the relation between mind and body and then soul as the meeting ground. Melody is about harmony (or sometimes even what I would call "constructive dischordance" - ie dischordance, but it takes on meaning as the exception ot the rule, just as in rhythm, it seems to me, all variations of rhythm, synchopations etc, take on their individual meaning precisely in the fact that they diverge in particular ways from our expectance of the "regularity" of a 4/4 signature - but that is probably a very PoMo concept) but it is harmony experienced in the motion of the rhythm ... thus, like the soul as the meeting of spirit and body, melody is the marriage of harmony and rhythm (I think I have mentioned that quote from my dad with you before, can't remember for sure though and I just thought it brought out the musical point well)

My friend Dom and I have been emailing back and forth on a personal project he has trying to write a screen play of the SW preq.s that is actually a good story, basically from scratch (very enjoyable, he has really good ideas and works them out well ... I function kind of like a sounding board advisor: "I like that idea in dialogue but I would use this word here and myabe truncate this to give it a more military feel" and things of that nature) ... but we were talking recently, spinning off talking about his personal project (that could never even think about seeing the public light of day until GL is deceased), and talking about a guy he went to hear at FUS while we were both there working on MA degrees, a guy named Norris Clarke. And at that talk Clarke was simply hammering one point ... the utter necesity of narrative for proper human understanding of the mysteries(ie we can't understand them fully anyway, but we can't even get where we can get without narrative) ... and I guess that is sort of where I am coming from too ... Narrative is like soul and melody, it contains "ontological/deeper meanings" but experienced in a time-bound, rhythmical, physical mode ... even studying Hebrew right now, it has a lot of intricasies that arise from the fact that, as a language, much of it's idiomatic development had to due with the its religious function in retelling the story of Israel ... in short, while the model obviously has exceptions to it and all, of all the languages it seems to be the one that was most directly "built for narrative," built for story-telling.

 

Blogger Merlin said ... (October 26, 2006 12:05 PM) : 

Ahhh, yeah, forgot to tie that last bit to the preceeding (to show how I got there and why it popped into my head ... Ie my "flow of argument" as they call it, which to me is basically the "discursive essay" form of a "plot")

Just as the soul and melody are motion, so is narrative. And even what I was just saying about the "discursive essay form of a plot" ... even in discursive thinking, the cursive (the running, the plot, the narrative) is essential, which is, I think, some of what Norris Clarke was saying.

 

Blogger Merlin said ... (October 28, 2006 2:02 AM) : 

I put this up over on Sumara's blog because she had a post on T.S. Elliot there but thought I would throw it up here too, one of my favorite lines that all of this (time and eternity, past, present and future, narrative, movement, music ... dance) has brought to mind is from Elliot's 4 Quartets:

"At the still point of the turning, there is the dance, and there is only the dance"

 

Anonymous Anonymous said ... (December 07, 2006 2:17 PM) : 

I heard you can get killed easier in the Bronx.

 

Blogger Pauli said ... (December 07, 2006 2:23 PM) : 

Easier than where exactly?

 

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